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in help of deciding between GTX 1660 Ti and RX 590

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Im planning on upgrading from my gtx 960 but I don't know what's the better option. they cost the same for me so it's just a deciding factor on what's more future proof

Thank's for any and all help

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2 minutes ago, Cactopos said:

Im planning on upgrading from my gtx 960 but I don't know what's the better option. they cost the same for me so it's just a deciding factor on what's more future proof

Thank's for any and all help

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Gtx 1660 ti is the faster card. Tho i would consider steppin up to a rx 5700 or a used gtx 1070

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Gtx 1660 ti is the faster card. Tho i would consider steppin up to a rx 5700 or a used gtx 1070

the stock 5700 costs +/- 100 euros more for me so it's kind of a steep price and there realy isn't a used market here.....

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1660ti, period. RX 590 is even slower than the 1660 non ti


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7 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Gtx 1660 ti is the faster card. Tho i would consider steppin up to a rx 5700 or a used gtx 1070

A used 1070 would be a bad idea. Higher versions of the 1660 Ti (like the Asus ROG Model) perform similar to and often better than the GTX 1070. Wtach Linus' video on the 1660 Ti


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13 minutes ago, Cactopos said:

Im planning on upgrading from my gtx 960 but I don't know what's the better option. they cost the same for me so it's just a deciding factor on what's more future proof

Easily go for the 1660 Ti. 


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15 minutes ago, Cactopos said:

they cost the same for m

I hope that by that, you don't mean you didn't compare a 1-fan low-end 1660 Ti to the RX 590, did you?


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Just now, Deathtroya said:

I hope that by that, you don't mean you didn't compare a 1-fan low-end 1660 Ti to the RX 590, did you?

Nah it's a gap of 50 euro from the cheapest nitro + rx 590 to the most expensive GTX 1660 ti

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@Deathtroya is the MSI GTX 1660 TI ARMOR 6G OC a good card? (btw my current card is a GTX 960 Windforce 2G from gigabyte)

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5 minutes ago, Cactopos said:

@Deathtroya is the MSI GTX 1660 TI ARMOR 6G OC a good card? (btw my current card is a GTX 960 Windforce 2G from gigabyte)

Honestly, I don't know. Its reviews look decent on Amazon but I don't have any personal experience with or with any of MSI's GPUs in general. This is where YouTube comes in handy. There are a ton of videos on YouTube discussing the differences and comparisons between different models of the 1660 Ti. I strongly recommend checking them out.


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38 minutes ago, Cactopos said:

@Deathtroya is the MSI GTX 1660 TI ARMOR 6G OC a good card? (btw my current card is a GTX 960 Windforce 2G from gigabyte)

Typically the armor cards have lower end cooling compared to other msi cards but still get the job done as long as you have proper air flow in your case. If the price difference isn't high I usually like to get one of the nicer models just because they tend to boost better and often run quiter. 

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1 hour ago, Deathtroya said:

A used 1070 would be a bad idea. Higher versions of the 1660 Ti (like the Asus ROG Model) perform similar to and often better than the GTX 1070. Wtach Linus' video on the 1660 Ti

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so the stock 1070...... the reason isnt exactly performance. its the cost savings. so i dont see how its a bad idea. also the 1070 is a tad faster iirc

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

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so the stock 1070...... the reason isnt exactly performance. its the cost savings. so i dont see how its a bad idea. also the 1070 is a tad faster iirc

GPUs in particular are something you should never buy used even if it'll save you a few bucks. Saving by going for a less powerful GPU is something I would recommend over going for a used GPU.


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3 minutes ago, Deathtroya said:

GPUs in particular are something you should never buy used even if it'll save you a few bucks

Other than perhaps warranty. Why not?

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12 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Other than perhaps warranty. Why not?

You wouldn't know if it has been used for mining.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Well for now i have landed on the MSI Geforce GTX 1660 Ti Gaming X 6GB. even though it's a price premium it hav ehigher clock speeds and the cooler is more efficient from what i found digging around

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6 minutes ago, Cactopos said:

Well for now i have landed on the MSI Geforce GTX 1660 Ti Gaming X 6GB. even though it's a price premium it hav ehigher clock speeds and the cooler is more efficient from what i found digging around

Just get the cheapest 1660 Ti... no need for the higher clock speeds.

 

A Vega 56 is also a good option FYI.


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24 minutes ago, Deathtroya said:

You wouldn't know if it has been used for mining.

And that matters because?

 

Specifically mining gtx 1070 cards are amazing deals.

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And that matters because?

Well, it's definitely subjective, but I honestly wouldn't go for a used GPU, especially if it's for a new or my first build...

It matters because, well...you wouldn't know if it has been getting squeezed for months or if it was put on a dusty shelf by looking at it...

You might see that as an opportunity, others might see it as a risk. It's subjective


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2 minutes ago, Deathtroya said:

Well, it's definitely subjective, but I honestly wouldn't go for a used GPU, especially if it's for a new or my first build...

It matters because, well...you wouldn't know if it has been getting squeezed for months or if it was put on a dusty shelf by looking at it...

You might see that as an opportunity, others might see it as a risk. It's subjective

It's not a risk. GPUs don't easily die like that.

 

Most mining cards have actually been treated better than gaming cards, since they're usually undervolted....


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8 minutes ago, Deathtroya said:

Well, it's definitely subjective, but I honestly wouldn't go for a used GPU, especially if it's for a new or my first build...

It matters because, well...you wouldn't know if it has been getting squeezed for months or if it was put on a dusty shelf by looking at it...

You might see that as an opportunity, others might see it as a risk. It's subjective

In other words........ No good reason other than the used factor.

 

Mining is in many ways less intensive than what many people think. Gaming is just as demanding workload, so the fact mining cards have a bad rep because mining makes them fantastic deals.

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2 hours ago, Cactopos said:

@Deathtroya is the MSI GTX 1660 TI ARMOR 6G OC a good card? (btw my current card is a GTX 960 Windforce 2G from gigabyte)

it's alright. Not as s*** as the older ones since the "cheapest of the bunch" status is replaced by the Ventus, and that's quite bad in fan noise (especially the high pitch).


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On 8/6/2019 at 9:56 PM, GoldenLag said:

In other words........ No good reason other than the used factor.

That's the problem. You would never be able to know if they're simply used, or excessively mined 24/7. I don't know how many times you want me to say this, but...you regard mined cards as an opportunity, others like myself wouldn't be comfortable with such purchases


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