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No, not at all on a $200 CPU. If it's $1500 I might pay that extra.

Hello all,

 

I was planning to get a r5 3600 for a build and oc it moderately. Is it worth spending the extra 50 euros just to get the extra 200MHz clock speeds? I am trying to future proof the system as much as possible, but if you think I should put the money somewhere else, then please say that. I would be inclined to stick with the 3600 (non x), but please tell me your opinions. In case its important, my budget is roughly 1000€.

 

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No, not at all on a $200 CPU. If it's $1500 I might pay that extra.

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Moderate overclocking can make the 3600 outperform the 3600x, they're the same chip with the only exception being the clockspeed. This is what I did when purchasing Ryzen 2 years ago The 1700, 1700x, and 1800x are all 8 core models with varying clock speeds. Was able to push my 1700 to 4ghz to make it as fast as an 1800x for a decent amount cheaper. You shouldn't have to do much to match clocks on the 3600 to the 3600x

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Get a good cooler on the 3600 and you will be able to get 3600X performance with very good thermals, i don't even know why the 3600X is 50$ more then the 3600 for not much more performance, it's 3% more performance for 20% more money.

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I bought the 3600 and saved the $50. No reason to spend the extra cash for the small bump in speed. This thing is running circles around my old 1800x in gaming

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3 hours ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I bought the 3600 and saved the $50. No reason to spend the extra cash for the small bump in speed. This thing is running circles around my old 1800x in gaming

Where I would agree with you. I wonder if the added TPD will give a more stable overclocking window. That was my thoughts anyways... 

 

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I haven’t messed with mine at all. I don’t really feel a need to with the single threaded performance being so much better then my 1800x, I’m more then happy with it. 

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6 hours ago, Minidak said:

Well I'm the moron who bought a 3600x ?

Me too. It was the only Ryzen 3000 on Newegg at 7AM on 07/07

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The 3600x, isn't going to have alot of headroom to overclock as It's basically a 3600 that's already been overclocked. Save yourself the money and get a 3600

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What's funny is that I am seeing people telling others that they screwed up by buying the 3600x, and then they continue to say "I bought the 3600 and spent the extra money on a better cooler". Well, if you spend $40 less on your CPU, but take that $40 and get a better cooler, isn't that basically the same thing as buying the 3600x? The only reason to buy the 3600x is if you don't overclock or don't know how to.

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Well the 3600x cooler is pretty shit, so with either CPU you should upgrade the cooler anyway.

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Even if you buy the 3600X instead of going with the 3600 and a good cooler, self OC will be limited to how cold/hot the CPU will be able to run. So in the end, the 3600X with bad cooling will probably end up being as fast/slow as the 3600 without any aftermarket cooler so thats why so many people buy the 3600 and then get a good cooler. Their CPU run cooler, they reduce the Vcore voltage and get very good clockspeed, as good if not better then the 3600X. I'm running a 2700 with an AIO at the same all core speed as the 2700X, and the 2700X won't probably clock faster then my CPU with the same AIO. I can run my CPU at 4.1GHZ with 1.3 volts, its running at about 40-45c when gaming, i can run it at 4.3ghz but need much more voltage and temps get higher, the 2700X won't probably run at 4.3ghz for daily usage anyway, so why buy the 2700X.

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The X version comes with a slightly higher stock speed and slightly better cooler. Basically they upcharging you for a cooler. And niether cooler is all that great. And once you enable PBO or something they are basically the same processor. Is 50 dollars more worth it in my opinion, no, not really. If you were just going to drop the cpu and cooler into a computer and not mess with anything then maybe it is worth it, if 50 bucks isn't that big of a deal to you. I highly doubt you are going to notice the slightly higher speed increase on normal usage though. And honestly either of those coolers will work fine if everything is set to stock. Providing you have decent airflow in your case.

 

Pretty much any aftermarket cooler will work better than the stock ones, even a 15 dollar one. If you spent the extra 50 bucks on just a cooler it would way outperform the stock cooler.

 

The amd X versions are not really "binned" chips like what you expect from a intel K series or something. And every ryzen cpu is unlocked so you don't have to spend more to overclock it. Not that overclocking one does much anyway. They run about as well as they can out of the box, amd set them up that way.

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