Alcohol is bad for acrylic. Was cleaning reservoir...

[RogueLizard]

(please read the entire post before commenting silly, inciteful, or unintelligent things)

 

acrylic is a big family of polymers (thermoplastics or thermosets) derived from acrylic acid, methacrylic acid or other related compounds.

Alcohol, as a good solvent, has the ability to attack the surface of acrylics and dissolve the polymer chains.

 

Microfractures and eventually big cracks will eventually make it explode into pieces.

I bought some PVC from Lowes and an O-Ring from VIP for less than a dollar each. Had a friend with a lathe use a special bit to widen and thread the PVC.

 

Been running the loop for over an hour with zero leaks. At some point I am going to put in a small acrylic window so I can see the fluid levels.

500L/H. I actually have two pumps in my loop, one of them is a CPU block from an AiO.

 

I took out the flow thingie (piece of plastic under the copper block) so the big pump doesn't have to work as hard to move fluid past the weaker pump. If anything, the weaker pump is a failsafe that'll give me time to save my work and shut down before it overheats.

 

I'm just waiting for my actual CPU block but FedEx is taking their sweet fucking time.

 

 

[emosun]

yep use acrylic cleaner like plexus not alcohol

[RogueLizard]

2 minutes ago, emosun said:

yep use acrylic cleaner like plexus not alcohol

this is certainly one of those things you learn immediately from.

 

It's only a $35 combo off amazon but still

[imreloadin]

Whatever happened to good ol' soap and water?

[fliblio]

That's not pc water cooling specific tubing is it?

[RogueLizard]

2 hours ago, fliblio said:

That's not pc water cooling specific tubing is it?

Read the very first sentence of Post #1.

 

The answer to your question is that it doesn't matter whether it's for PC cooling or toilets. It's fucking PVC. It's plastic. It doesn't matter.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

common sense is all gone when it comes to pc....

those plastics ages and became brittle, thats all

[RogueLizard]

41 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

common sense is all gone when it comes to pc....

those plastics ages and became brittle, thats all

it's brand new lmao

[mikat]

oooooooooooooooo noooooooo

RIP

[SolarNova]

Owell lesson learned .. moving on

[Velcade]

11 hours ago, RogueLizard said:

Acrylic is a big family of polymers (thermoplastics or thermosets)

Do you work in polymers?

[RogueLizard]

2 hours ago, Velcade said:

Do you work in polymers?

I work in a lot of different fields, I worked in plastics engineering while in college

[Tristerin]

10 hours ago, RogueLizard said:

Read the very first sentence of Post #1.

 

The answer to your question is that it doesn't matter whether it's for PC cooling or toilets. It's fucking PVC. It's plastic. It doesn't matter.

You mean you didn't buy those tubes, rated for a certain PSI, temperature and types of fluids to safely run things through from a PC specific website that labeled the tubes to make them 10x more expensive?  Shame - shamey shame shame! lol

 

All I see here is a DIY that works.  And if it works well, than it was 10x less than the cost of buying 1 new...so whose the smart guy now eh? (not talking to you OP talking to anyone who would think it matters lol)

 

TBH all this tells me, this post specifically I already knew about acrylics etc, is that I CAN turn my AIO into a open loop, I CAN reuse the radiators as long as I know the metal types etc and in the end...its just pieces put together.  I wondered why more people didn't do it this way.

 

Thank you!

[RogueLizard]

7 hours ago, Tristerin said:

You mean you didn't buy those tubes, rated for a certain PSI, temperature and types of fluids to safely run things through from a PC specific website that labeled the tubes to make them 10x more expensive

no, I got 10 feet from Lowes for $7. It's fiberglass reinforced clear vinyl I think, same shit used in most AiOs.

 

7 hours ago, Tristerin said:

All I see here is a DIY that works.  And if it works well, than it was 10x less than the cost of buying 1 new...

yeah I got one of my 240mm rads from a $50 AiO off ebay and the other off amazon for $20. Combined those with the $35 pump from amazon and the $7 tubing

 

7 hours ago, Tristerin said:

is that I CAN turn my AIO into a open loop, I CAN reuse the radiators as long as I know the metal types etc and in the end...its just pieces put together.  I wondered why more people didn't do it this way.

its easy tbh, and you can use basic antifreeze. Most AF is ethylene glycol/water premix, the EG is an anti corrosive that lets you mix metals. I am using 2 aluminum rads and a copper block atm. 75c on all 6 cores at 4.6ghz 1.4v.

 

 

[RogueLizard]

E5 1650 v2 4.6Ghz

 

16GB RAM currently, will be 32 relatively soon

 

GTX 1070, will have 1070 SLI relatively soon

 

Just waiting for a real CPU block now.

 

ASUS P9X79 Pro Quad SLI

[MeDownYou]

13 hours ago, RogueLizard said:

its easy tbh, and you can use basic antifreeze. Most AF is ethylene glycol/water premix, the EG is an anti corrosive that lets you mix metals. I am using 2 aluminum rads and a copper block atm. 75c on all 6 cores at 4.6ghz 1.4v.

 

 

I appreciate the thought process, what are you using as a biocide?

[RogueLizard]

1 hour ago, MeDownYou said:

I appreciate the thought process, what are you using as a biocide?

antifreeze. ethylene glycol is extremely toxic. nothing could grow in there if it tried. but also a few drops of alcohol wont hurt

[Tristerin]

16 hours ago, RogueLizard said:

no, I got 10 feet from Lowes for $7. It's fiberglass reinforced clear vinyl I think, same shit used in most AiOs.

 

yeah I got one of my 240mm rads from a $50 AiO off ebay and the other off amazon for $20. Combined those with the $35 pump from amazon and the $7 tubing

 

its easy tbh, and you can use basic antifreeze. Most AF is ethylene glycol/water premix, the EG is an anti corrosive that lets you mix metals. I am using 2 aluminum rads and a copper block atm. 75c on all 6 cores at 4.6ghz 1.4v.

 

 

This is what I needed to read.  Im just uncomfortable trying because I hadn't researched yet...this helps me completely understand (my biggest fears was mixing metals and solutions etc!). 

 

Question on your thoughts on this - with a powerful enough pump...isn't your AIO pump basically just a waterblock (say the pump went out in it) or why are you set on replacing the AIO pump?  It looks neat lol

[RogueLizard]

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

This is what I needed to read.  Im just uncomfortable trying because I hadn't researched yet...this helps me completely understand (my biggest fears was mixing metals and solutions etc!). 

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

isn't your AIO pump basically just a waterblock (say the pump went out in it) or why are you set on replacing the AIO pump? 

It's still actively moving fluid, but the big pump overpowers it. Think of it more as a failsafe.

 

When I get the replacement pump in, I'm going to run both my "broken" one and the replacement for this reason. 

 

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

Question on your thoughts on this

I have an actual CPU block coming in on Friday, but I want to use my desktop while I wait so this is doing the job just fine. Lowered it to 4.5Ghz at 1.32v. Under 70c.

[MeDownYou]

5 hours ago, RogueLizard said:

antifreeze. ethylene glycol is extremely toxic. nothing could grow in there if it tried. but also a few drops of alcohol wont hurt

It's highly toxic to us...not so highly toxic to molds etc. Toss a couple drops of iodine in it for good measure

 

(now that your res cracked and you replaced anyway)

[RogueLizard]

14 minutes ago, MeDownYou said:

It's highly toxic to us...not so highly toxic to molds etc. Toss a couple drops of iodine in it for good measure

it's highly toxic to most living things. I have another custom loop I built running on a 4790K build and it's been running for 8 months without issue.

 

Sold this thing a whole back but I keep in touch with the new owner.

 

[MeDownYou]

1 minute ago, RogueLizard said:

it's highly toxic to most living things. I have another custom loop I built running on a 4790K build and it's been running for 8 months without issue.

 

Sold this thing a whole back but I keep in touch with the new owner.

Take it or leave it, only trying to help

not worth the potential hassle of a moldy loop to save a few drops of iodine imo though

 

Glad you were lucky enough to not have this issue.

[AnonymousGuy]

Using off the shelf tubing like that is a rookie mistake that leads to blocks getting clogged up from plasticizer leech.

 

And then shit like this:

 

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antifreeze. ethylene glycol is extremely toxic. nothing could grow in there if it tried. but also a few drops of alcohol wont hurt

 

Tells me you really need to keep quiet giving advice cause you don't know shiiiiit.  Go watch whole room watercooling and tell me how well using antifreeze did as a biocide.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7sIgBpe6Co

[RogueLizard]

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Using off the shelf tubing like that is a rookie mistake that leads to blocks getting clogged up from plasticizer leech.

Okay. There are a few problems with how you express your opinion.

 

The first is assuming I'm a total idiot. This is literally the same tubing they use in your basic Asetek AiO. It's made by the same company.

 

The second is assuming I didn't already flush the tubing.

 

The third is alcohol, especially isopropyl, is extremely deadly to bacteria and growth. Adding a few drops into the reservoir during filling prevents any bacteria from even beginning to grow.

 

But yeah, let's completely ignore the 3 years I've been doing this and the 13 years of PC experience I have, and let some chesty teenager express his opinion on the Internet like he owns it.

 

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Using off the shelf tubing like that is a rookie mistake that leads to blocks getting clogged up from plasticizer leech.

 

If you haven't read already read the post:

 

On 1/17/2019 at 11:29 AM, Velcade said:

Do you work in polymers?

I worked in plastic engineering in college.

 

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Go watch whole room watercooling and tell me how well using antifreeze did as a biocide.

I was rushing, and not paying attention when I was cleaning my reservoir. I know full well that alcohol is bad for acrylic and what grows in ethylene glycol and what doesn't.

 

The clog in Linus's loop was due to a local floral fungus, not anything that Linus had done. Since he put the loop in the fucking bathtub and had a giant plastic bin as a reservoir.

 

It's the middle of winter and there is nothing growing at all.

 

Maybe next time do some fucking research before you get schooled again.

 

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

biocide.

FURTHERMORE;

 

the antifreeze I use comes with a biocide already mixed in.

 

So yeah. Being a pedantic toad will get you nowhere.

 

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Using off the shelf tubing like that is a rookie mistake that leads to blocks getting clogged up from plasticizer leech.

Assuming I'm a rookie and an idiot is a huge mistake. I didn't ask for your judgement or your opinion, take your high and might attitude elsewhere.

 

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Tells me you really need to keep quiet giving advice cause you don't know shiiiiit. 

If you're gonna act like an asshole, go away.

 

1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Go watch whole room watercooling and tell me how well using antifreeze did as a biocide.

that was a whole room with multiple people in an uncontrolled environment.

 

Again, go be high and mighty somewhere else. Judging by your post history you think you are better than everyone else. You aren't. But I am.