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hmmm... ill try but that explain bios not updating from usb after clearly verifying correctly

sooo...ask customer support? 

The 4070 uses 200w of power , Transients on it are very low.
 
They list total board power not thermal design power , Why would a card that comes with a cooler list TDP? That's for cpus to help people get an aftermarket cooler.
 
OP a 4070 will run absolutely fine on any reasonable quality 600w psu with a 3700X.
 
My 7900XT has 2 x 8 pins and runs at 355w with spikes to nearly 500w at times , A modern day psu can handle transients and the 4070 transients are a hell of alot lower than my card.

try this 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€228.85 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€81.92 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€168.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€117.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€570.02 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€91.54 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€131.89 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1505.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-10 13:07 CEST+0200
 
But you could get a 4070
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€228.85 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€81.92 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€168.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€117.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€605.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€91.54 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€120.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €1530.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-10 13:09 CEST+0200

yeah those frustrate me too. but i must say most higher wattage (120 and up) bricks i found were at least ventilated. 
 
but i think i got away with one here. i found a, although a bit fugly, case that supports a slim line optical drive, fits my slightly taller ram, is small enough and actually comes with a psu. still only 150w but at least its a real psu. (In Win BQ656)
 
 
also turns out, i didnt even have to go into undervolting, i activated the power saving mode that comforms to eu norms and the whole system didnt exceed 86w under cinebench r23. 
 
 

If you limit its power then sure, but bear in mind a 150W PicoPSU also needs good airflow if its going to run close to its limit.

Personally I moved away from PicoPSUs as I found 12v power bricks wear out a lot faster than SFX/ATX PSUs.  Plus its just neater to have the PSU internal than the tangle of wires you get with external bricks.

didnt they do that one already?
 
also can we get crazy ass watercooling projects back? im not talking about one video about how you your own lump of a cpu block but i mean crazy levels from the good old days. i miss whole room watercooling project and the mineral oil series you know the visually and otherwise really freaky stuff no one else does or needs. 
how about resurrecting hardware from the oldern days or something.
 
ohh and obviously the obligatory cry for another god damn scrapyard wars. with fire.....and hookers....ok scratch that but how about real scrapyard rules. no money involved. just scrap people give/ throw away. i would love to see linus try to get like 30-something more Mhz out of some ancient cpu all desperate like just to beat luke who managed to somehow score a broken AIO and mend it or something. their dynamic is just the best for that format. also no guests. austin was really tough to watch.
 
 

6800xt is still faster than rtx 3070ti, it is basicly the same as the 6900xt but the only difference is the cu count and clocks.  72 cu's instead of 80 and slightly lower clocks
it has the same memory, and the same TDP, so its great!

it depends on the usb controller.  There's other rules like the usb device not being allowed to pull more than 100mA at startup and then it can negotiate more power, so there's a possibility the usb controller could ignore traffic if there's no power consumption on the port. 
I guess a simple solution would be to add a led or something to consume a tiny amount of power ... for example a red led and a 1k resistor in series with the led  would consume around (5v - 2v) / 1000  = 3mA of current ... that's probably enough to exceed some imaginary threshold in a usb controller if such exists, and low enough not to burn your eyes (a generic red led would be reasonably bright at only 3mA, good as a stand-by / on indicator)
 

ahh ok so if i additionally hook up the ground wire, it should be detected?

ahh ok so if i additionally hook up the ground wire, it should be detected?

D+, D- and a common ground are required, as long as arduino is powered by something else vcc+ isnt required. I too have couple of arduinos powered externally that I connect to my pc to flash them.

You also sort of need a common ground between the devices, otherwise the signals would be hard to decode... so connect the ground wire at the very least. 
 

Though its still pretty funny if you make your bike sound like a ricer civic xD
 
I dont actually have any help to offer unfortunately, just a joke opportunity too good to refuse, though i do suggest looking around the internet cause i bet someone has this kind of info if there are ppl making simulated engine sounds on yt

Would this be less cringy?

In my experience, the errors/crashes are most likely to happen, when a core ramps up or down, not when it's under constant load. So I'm cycling them to make each core ramp up and down multiple times per minute.
 
Edit: also this way, I can run the test once and test all cores and I don't have to redo the test for each core individually. I'm not testing for thermal stability, single core loads should never overheat the CPU, I'm only testing for voltage stability, does the voltage respond fast enough, when the clock speed changes. For thermals, you'd want to run a constant load.

I'm using OCCT (free for personal use, not my software), left menu "Test" -> select CPU in bottom left tab (top left and entire right side are for monitoring), I do "Large", "Extreme" and "Variable" for the settings, then Threads set to Advanced and configured as in this popup, this will start a single thread stresstest on core 0 and cycle the core every 5 seconds.

It's not enabled out of the box, AMD has 2 different technologies, that sound almost the same, and many people get confused: There is Precision Boost and Precision Boost Overdrive. The first one is the stock Ryzen boost behavior and is enabled out of the box, it can change the clocks up to 1000 times per second depending on load, temp, power limits and many other factors. Precision Boost Overdrive is enabled manually, and it's a way of overclocking while still using the really good boost algorithm Ryzen has. Basically PBO allows you to reconfigure the boost behavior, alter limits or remove them entirely.
 
For example, for every 65W TDP Ryzen CPU the stock PB limits are:
PPT: 88W
TDC: 60A
EDC: 90A
And in case of the 5600G, Clock limit: 4450 MHz (at least on my unit, I know it's listed as 4.4GHz max boost, not sure if there is a small variation between units or if they just leave out the extra 50 MHz)
 
As you can see in my screenshot above, I raised those limits to:
PPT: 100W
TDC: 90A
EDC: 140A
Clock limit: 4650 MHz (Boost Override +200)
 
Also I'm using the curve optimizer to undervolt each core, the PB algorithm does not only determine what clock to run, but also what voltage, and that voltage can be modified per core, lower voltage -> lower power consumption, but may lead to instability, so you really need to be careful or test each core individually. That's what people have been talking about, when they say "offset". All of these values will depend on your CPU, you can use my values as a starting point if you want to fiddle with it, but I'd recommend starting with -10 on all cores on the curve optimizer. My worst core can only do -10, so while all other cores can do bigger offsets, if I set it to -15 all core, my Windows will probably boot, but when a heavy load hits the worst core, I might end up with a bluescreen.
PBO can also be used to decrease the limits. If you don't want your CPU to heat up your loop too much, you could limit the PPT to 50W for example, then the boost algorithm will pick lower frequencies to stick to the power limit. PBO makes it really easy to fine tune your CPU, only thing it can't do is extreme overclocking, because the Boost Override is limited to +200 at max. 

I don't remember the exact name of the setting, as I didn't touch it again after setting it up.
 
Made a quick search and it should be the Curve Optimizer that you set negative offsets to. Everything else should be set to Auto.
 
Depending on the Motherboard Manufacturer, it should look something like this:


 
or
 

Ryzen 5000 series has a high idle voltage, so temps do run hot. 40-50C idle is about what you'd expect on air, and with the way PBO works, it just increases the voltage and clock speed to keep it at about that range at idle, with load temps always ending up at ~80C (give or take ~5 degrees)

Is it really idle, or is there some small background task going on? My 5600G idles between 30-33°C with an air cooler. Also what Windows power plan are you using? "High Performance" prevents the CPU from powering down properly during idle, I prefer "Balanced". Check Ryzen Master to see what the boost algorithm is doing.

This one: https://www.xs-pc.com/radiators-tx-series/tx240-ultrathin-radiator
 
XSPC notes that: "With 13 tubes and 22 fins per inch it's the highest density core XSPC have ever released, but due to the thinness of the core it still performs with low speed fans." So you should be bueno with slim fans 👍

f*ck me
well the thing is the system runs fine over igpu right now. no ram issues or anything. it just acts like i got no gpu hooked up

f*ck me
well the thing is the system runs fine over igpu right now. no ram issues or anything. it just acts like i got no gpu hooked up

sooo ... reseating ram ? even though i literally havent touched those?
yeahhh... 
...so that might be a problem ...