trattgunnar

nvm, ended up winning an auction for rampage 2 gene, 3x2gb ram (this won't be used, just thrown into the spares bin) and a cpu of some description (probably a 920) for £35 shipped 

A SR TF2 would be better: https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=4372383
You can put probably a square frame 140mm fan on it after bending the fan clips a bit and fit a powerful fan like an ML140 Pro RGB but it's a bit expensive: https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=4571223
LL140's or Aer RGB's are probably closer to what you're looking for though: 
https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=4523119
https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=3911328

Normal M.2 NVMe SSD can not boot on X58 with out third party software like DUET or a moddet bios. So if you exsample stick a Samsung 970 EVO in a PCI to M.2 adaptor in a PCI slot. You cant boot or see it in bios. You will only can see it in windows and use it as a storage drive. So in that part your friend is some what right, as you can not use it as a boot drive, but only for storage.
 
But as said before software like DUET can more or less get any NVMe m.2 SSD bootable on X58. The down side is that it needs the third party software. There is a guide for NVMe with DUET on asus X58 here. That might be help ful for you.
 
https://audiocricket.com/2016/12/31/booting-samsung-sm961-on-asus-p6t-se-mainboard/
 
More speciefik with the Samsung 950 PRO. Samsung left a little gift in that SSD known as legacy mode or OPT-ROM (Samsung 960/970 EVO/PRO does not have this option build in). That makes the Samsung 950 PRO bootable in legacy bios as the bios sees it as a IDE drive. But it only works when the sata controller is set to AHCI (raid is no go). So this specifik SSD can fully work on X58 or other chipsæt/motherboard that support boot from PCI express with out third party software or bios mod. all throw it seems some motherboards arrent happy with the 950 PRO. EVGA boards seems to fail while ASUS boards they work just fine and gigabyte as well. So not all boards can handle the SSD out of box and yes the SSD runs via a m.2 to PCIe adaptor.
 
I use this adaptor for my SSD as it has a heatsink to cool the SSD. M.2 NVMe SSD can get pretty toasty when under high stress and not properly cooled.
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3400
 
Performance: Game load there are not much difference from sata to NVMe ssd and benchmark does not benefit from it unless the benchmark has a specifik overall pc performance tjeck like userbenchmark and Passmark performance test. So benchmark like 3dmark firestrike/time spy will not benefit from it in score, only in load time maybe. But in windows overall use, yes there are a difference that can be felt. Boot is faster, software loads faster and overall the pc just feels faster and more snappy and ready to go than a sata SSD. I am not going back to sata SSD as a boot drive. Deffently not. Note that most M.2 to PCIe adaptor runs X4 and by that can get a speed up to 1700 MB/s while 950 PRO is rated at up to 2200 MB/s, the point is that because of PCIe gen 2, you are speed limited to around 1700 MB/s.
 

 
I made two video´s in bios, boot and shutdown. Seconds video just show a faster boot after i optimized bios and windows.
Also i made this thread some time ago over at TPU.com. There might also be some help full stuff as bofh i and others later in the thread share som info.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/m-2-ssd-on-old-x58-system-with-m-2-pci-adaptor-can-it-work.231611/
 
Well this is all i have to say about it. But yeah as a boot drive. M.2 NVMe SSD on X58 is pretty neat, but for game load and benchmark, that´s very limited what you get there.

its skylake x. there is close to no use for those CPUs as there are other cheaper options that do the job better

Your current rig is running quad channel DDR3 correct? If you upgrade to DDR4, you have a larger memory bus as well as very high frequencies available. You would be able to improve bandwidth even on dual channel, and there are nice workstation boards available for Ryzen, the debuted X570 boards look pretty serious.

Not for $90, what the fuck?

Another option is an old workstation that uses lga1366 like a T3500 or Z800

Too bad the database is dead. As a relative newcomer to overclocking I could have used information for a Ryzen 5 2600 on a ASUS B450-F.
 
 

Now that we’ve got new hardware to play with, it’s time to resurrect the Build Guides once again, this time looking for the absolute best bang for the buck!
 
 
Buy the build:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/svZJn
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KVwZ

Don't know if you're interested......
But I just got a Corsair Void Pro RGB wireless headset half price from Amazon today....but I'm wondering if I should send them back!?!
I was reading the safety advice about the battery(YES, I RTFM), and the first precaution says '1. Do not drop, hit, TAUNT, SHOUT AT, or bend the battery'!??!
WTH....
Would you and your team like to do a test vid on youtube please?  I really like them, and at a great price too.
 
 
 
 
 
I'm sure you'll all enjoy shouting abuse to test them out.... ^___-

the dark is a overclocking motherboard, it's has a really good vrm, but isn't really a consumer board. the master will probably be better for your money

Normally that would be a great card for $300....however with it having an ek block on it, to use that block you would have to build your own custom water cooling loop unless the guy still had the air cooler. 
 
I'd sat get a Vega 56 or an RX 580 8GB. 

Lower the texture settings? I suggest play with 780 Ti. 
Game texture settings scale from 2GB, 4GB, 6GB and 8GB.

Why bother with a review? They're just soldered, slightly upclocked Skylake-X CPUs. They still consume more power than the city of New Orleans, still run hotter than a flamethrower and still last as long under load as a 13-year-old who just realized that you can put porn on a cell phone. There's nothing to review.

just buy a 2950x, its 300$ cheaper, and has more cores.

Well then may be you need to try lubantu instead of windows, I got a t2300 usable again

Userbenchmark is generic, and yes the GTX 680 is marginally faster while consuming twice as much power and heating up twice as much sounding like a jet under load while having outdated drivers and no support for GeForce Experience features like mentioned ShadowPlay.
 
Cuda Cores are different from one generation to another, the process node used on the GTX 1050 Ti is at 14nm already while the GTX 680 is 32nm or something I don't even recall out of my head right now.

I'd grab the GTX 1050 Ti because cheaper, newer, power efficient, a huge upgrade from the HD 7770... I'm personally not in favour of digging these old power houses that nowadays are simply too inefficient with outdated drivers.
 
The GTX 680 can't even use ShadowPlay.

well my best guess is that it's a newer model so there's more ssds to sell so they've lowered the prices. people wouldn't want to buy the newer product if it was more expensive than the older one right?

You're gonna put a Vega 64 on an AM3+ board? My friend, you need to update your CPU.

seasonic fanless 600w
 
fan can't wear out
 
1000iq

Yeah there's plenty

People don't like to go on the internet and post how well their gpu driver works though , they post when it doesn't work.

For example , the xbox 360's gpu driver seemed to be fine for 8 years straight with even the hardware failing before the gpu driver. but you don't hear about it much

"there's no such thing as a free lunch"

But haven't you paid for the original card? Or did you get your money back and then another card? That makes no sense. 
 
Even if it was free though, I would probably delete this topic and never speak about it again
I myself got my 1080 for roughly 200€ less because of a mistake on a resellers website so psssshhht. 

You are taking a slight risk but if the card still falls under Warranty, than I see its a mitigate-able risk.  Just the same as buying a used GPU for gaming.  There is always a risk but if its over Ebay or something use Paypal - theres a guarantee you will get your money back if its a lie etc