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Hi I currently have a GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ CROSSFIRE USB3.0 SATA 3, will a vega 64 work in this? And will it require the latest bios as Its from 2013.

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You're gonna put a Vega 64 on an AM3+ board? My friend, you need to update your CPU.

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It will run, but why? Heavy CPU bottleneck.

 

also watch out for the PSU

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3 minutes ago, Arlen_1172 said:

Hi I currently have a GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ CROSSFIRE USB3.0 SATA 3, will a vega 64 work in this? And will it require the latest bios as Its from 2013.

I'd assume that as long as the motherboard has a PCIe x16 slot, the GPU will work. But with a board that old, your CPU must be quite dated as well; you're likely to run into some CPU bottleknecking with a GPU that powerful.

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Yeah just a AMD fx-8350. Will get replaced eventually, same as the motherboard. I tried plugging it in but failed to install new drivers, every time I did I crashed halfway through. 

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And psu is new ,corsair  850 watt gold. Saving for a house so budget is tight , upgrading is slow .

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Short answer - Yes!

Longer Answer - Yes, but the card would be quite severely bottlenecked by that CPU. Games would probably be playable, with added bonus of higher ingame video setting, but don't expect high framerates. You didn't say exactly which Corsair series of PSU you have, but being Corsair and an 850W PSU at that, you're safe. 

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4 hours ago, Arlen_1172 said:

Yeah just a AMD fx-8350. Will get replaced eventually, same as the motherboard. I tried plugging it in but failed to install new drivers, every time I did I crashed halfway through. 

Do the drivers crash during the installation and error codes are displayed or does your whole pc freeze?

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4 hours ago, Arlen_1172 said:

Hi I currently have a GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ CROSSFIRE USB3.0 SATA 3, will a vega 64 work in this? And will it require the latest bios as Its from 2013.

Depends on the PSU.

You need a good PSU for that.

 

A normal 80plus Bronze is not enough and white is worse...

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2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Depends on the PSU.

You need a good PSU for that.

 

A normal 80plus Bronze is not enough and white is worse...

Classifying PSUs by colour is a bad idea 

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1 minute ago, Froody129 said:

Classifying PSUs by colour is a bad idea 

colors you mean bronze etc?

at least if he gets a bronze from a reputable psu company that should be okay.

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1 minute ago, bebejapes said:

colors you mean bronze etc?

at least if he gets a bronze from a reputable psu company that should be okay.

Yes. You can get really crap gold power supplies and really good bronze power supplies. 

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4 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Classifying PSUs by colour is a bad idea 

True but in bronze you only have crap and mediocre units, nothing great no more.

While the great stuff is at minimum Gold or better.

 

The Reason for that is that the difference in manufacturing between Bronze and Gold is almost negligable (like under 5€ or so)...

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1 minute ago, Froody129 said:

Yes. You can get really crap gold power supplies and really good bronze power supplies. 

well it also depends on whats available. amazon doesnt deliver to most of the world.

 

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4 hours ago, Arlen_1172 said:

Yeah just a AMD fx-8350. Will get replaced eventually, same as the motherboard. I tried plugging it in but failed to install new drivers, every time I did I crashed halfway through. 

Didcha run DDU first? IF you're replacing cards, especially if your'e swapping nVidia to AMD, it's best to run DDU to clear your system of any and all traces of previous driver. I transitioned from CF R9 290X to RTX2080 Ti to CF VEGA 64 without any issue thanks to DDU.

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3 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Yes. You can get really crap gold power supplies and really good bronze power supplies. 

No, you can't!

And you ignore the probability.

Its more probable to get a somewhat decent or even a good Gold unit than a good Bronze one. Especially since there is no real good Bronze unit these days!
They are - at best - somewhat decent but not great!

And in Europe you can get a somewhat OKish Gold unit for the Price of a good Bronze one...

 

And name  a couple of shitty Gold PSU.

The only ones that come to my mind are FSP Aurum based. The rest is electrically fine without many problems. Though not all are beeing tested.

 

Even the "cheap crap" like Xilence Performance X reigns supreme over all Bronze units, if you look at electrical performance (and noise profile).

You can argue about "Build Quality" and other stuff but not electrical performance...

 

Some other entry level Gold units like Chieftec Power Smart are also perfeclty fine and no Problemo. Though the fan is a bit shitty (high Motor/Bearing Noise) and totally scraps the effort they've taken with low fan RPM...

 

So wich gold units are crap?

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1 minute ago, GamerDude said:

Didcha run DDU first? IF you're replacing cards, especially if your'e swapping nVidia to AMD, it's best to run DDU to clear your system of any and all traces of previous driver. I transitioned from CF R9 290X to RTX2080 Ti to CF VEGA 64 without any issue thanks to DDU.

No, irrelevant.

Doesn't matter.

 

Shouldn't be an issue.

And I've done that a couple of days ago (though with Intel to AMD) and a while back when I added a GTX 710 to my Kaveri System.

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5 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, you can't!

And you ignore the probability.

Its more probable to get a somewhat decent or even a good Gold unit than a good Bronze one. Especially since there is no real good Bronze unit these days!
They are - at best - somewhat decent but not great!

And in Europe you can get a somewhat OKish Gold unit for the Price of a good Bronze one...

 

And name  a couple of shitty Gold PSU.

The only ones that come to my mind are FSP Aurum based. The rest is electrically fine without many problems. Though not all are beeing tested.

 

Even the "cheap crap" like Xilence Performance X reigns supreme over all Bronze units, if you look at electrical performance (and noise profile).

You can argue about "Build Quality" and other stuff but not electrical performance...

 

Some other entry level Gold units like Chieftec Power Smart are also perfeclty fine and no Problemo. Though the fan is a bit shitty (high Motor/Bearing Noise) and totally scraps the effort they've taken with low fan RPM...

 

So wich gold units are crap?

hahahha peoples concept of power is insane but i still think a bronze from a reputable brand is okay if that your budget. or save up for a gold teir

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5 minutes ago, bebejapes said:

hahahha peoples concept of power is insane but i still think a bronze from a reputable brand is okay if that your budget. or save up for a gold teir

no, most Bronze units are crap, even from Reputable Manufacturers like EVGA, Seasonic and some more.

Some Bronze units are fine but most are not...

 

 

You often still see group regulated units and/or real bad protection or both in this range...

 

And also rather high fan RPM and other stuff...

 

 

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1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

no, most Bronze units are crap, even from Reputable Manufacturers like EVGA, Seasonic and some more.

Some Bronze units are fine but most are not...

 

 

You often still see group regulated units and/or real bad protection or both in this range...

 

And also rather high fan RPM and other stuff...

 

 

the higher rpm in un avoidable considering the low cost of the unit and production cost.

its only if its what you can the safest bet is reputable company.

its a small stop till you can get a better one like gold tier just as you said.

its only for those who cant wait.

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1 hour ago, bebejapes said:

the higher rpm in un avoidable considering the low cost of the unit and production cost.

No, there are some fairly quiet units even in Bronze Area.

Like be quiet Pure Power 10, Xilence Performance A+ isn't too bad either (at least the 730W I got. 630W has higher RPM from what I know)....


The one doesn't have anything to do with the other...

 

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its only if its what you can the safest bet is reputable company.

its a small stop till you can get a better one like gold tier just as you said.

its only for those who cant wait.

minimum requirement is working protection and DC-DC.

Both is not available in most EVGA Bronze units, Seasonic S12II-Bronze, most Thermaltake units, Cooler Master and so on.,

 

While it is the norm with 80plus Gold units. Voltage Regulation is also better and so on, so if you buy blind without reviews just by brand, chances are an order of magnitude or two better that you get something decent in the Gold (or better) range than in Bronze.

 

And People tend to NOT replace PSU because its annoying and fiddly...

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1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, there are some fairly quiet units even in Bronze Area.

Like be quiet Pure Power 10, Xilence Performance A+ isn't too bad either....


The one doesn't have anything to do with the other...

 

minimum requirement is working protection and DC-DC.

Both is not available in most EVGA Bronze units, Seasonic S12II-Bronze, most Thermaltake units, Cooler Master and so on.,

 

While it is the norm with 80plus Gold units. Voltage Regulation is also better and so on, so if you buy blind without reviews just by brand, chances are an order of magnitude or two better that you get something decent in the Gold (or better) range than in Bronze.

 

And People tend to NOT replace PSU because its annoying and fiddly...

lets give them the benefit of the doubt and say they read etc and choose. but its better for them to go to the better brands and choosing them over some brands like raidmax for example. ive seen some here 4/10 fail and pop a capacitor.

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1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, irrelevant.

Doesn't matter.

Oh, since when did you become the OP? ? 

 

But yes, my bad, misread what he'd meant below, thought he'd already gotten the card.

 

6 hours ago, Arlen_1172 said:

Yeah just a AMD fx-8350. Will get replaced eventually, same as the motherboard. I tried plugging it in but failed to install new drivers, every time I did I crashed halfway through. 

Wait, what driver? GPU driver? Chipset driver? Plugging in what? Try to be specific, so we'd have a better idea as to what's going on with your rig....

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18 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

Oh, since when did you become the OP? ? 

No, but this is a Forum and that's for exchanging ideas.

Back in the day, DDU caused more problems than it solved, so I'd recommend using it when there are issues with drivers or there could be issues with drivers.

And prefer the manufacturers deinstallation routine.

18 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

But yes, my bad, misread what he'd meant below, thought he'd already gotten the card.

Happens, no hard feelings ^^

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