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And yet you still missed the part I said I'm going push and pull. lol, 

lol, usually I just take it as me American you  Canadian ya? 

That's why if Ryzen 3000s r5 range is 8cores/16threads Intel's balls are in the nutcracker machine for sure. 

Nice, I do nutty stunts like this:
 
Discord, Steam Chat, Youtube (playing some music), BOINC running 70% usage load on CPU (and no sneeze at WUs either, I had sixtrack avx going on), and playing a game at 4K.     Yes, I do that when I game on the few occasions.  Did that last night playing Borderlands GOTY Enchanced (was hovering around 100-160fps depending on the spot and what was occuring on screen).
 

Yea agreed, and that's why AMD gave us the 2400G or the G series for future budget builds. 

I still have a few b450 mortars in reserves I'm sure I can use one of that for this kid. The system I'm suggesting for him. In under $800 for him. Since I'm using his case, storage and psu. 

CoolerMaster MasterBox NR400 - $59.90
Ryzen R5 2600 - $155.00
AsRock B450m Pro4 - $89.90
G.skill Trident Z RGB 3000mhz cl16 16gb - $101.00
Asus Strix Vega 56 8gb - $289.00
Crucial MX500 500gb m.2 -$59.90
Corsair TX650 80+ Gold - $80.00
CoolerMaster MasterFan Pro 120 triple pack - $41.00
Reference cooler - free
I wish prices are like this everyday. 

I consider upselling safe. Telling a client that they made a bad decision in the past by installing a component that sucks is less safe.
Some people get attached to their poor decisions and get offended when they are pointed out.
 
To give you an example:  When I did 3D animation as part of my living I used lots of hard drives. At first I used Seagate but the failure rate was so high that I had to replace them every 6 months. When I used WD I replaced them yearly.  I do not have a good opinion of Seagate but people swear by them. All I did was leave them out of recommendations when I did consulting work and only went into detail if asked why I left them out.
  
What sucks to me may not suck to you so less safe.
 

Doesn't have to be. If the customer follows the employee's advice and something goes bad, or turns out to be the "wrong" decision/prediction, there's a chance that he might try and blame the employee. There's shitty people like that, so it's not a bad idea to keep your opinions to yourself in most scenarios. It depends of the situation though, it's certainly a grey area.

What was said wasn't BAD by any means. It doesn't necessarily have an inviting note to continue conversation.
 
When you enter a nerd zone of any kind, there is a distinct stigma of employee elitism. Go to any comic shop in your area and you'll PROBABLY see what I mean. If the conversation isn't inviting, it can seem intimidating.

I also own a MMA gym that sells fitness.  Im a personal trainer, and BJJ coach.  When someone comes in and says "I want to lose weight" I ask "What are your goals".  I don't start telling them how to lose weight.
 
EDIT - Im not virtue signaling owning business' - I can PM you (ive shared them on this forum before I don't care) if you want as Im not going to argue topic, Im going to respond as I would as someone who has "shops" (doesn't matter the widget you sell) and does it for a living.
 
EDIT 2 - if they ask "Should I lose weight" My first question is "Are you happy?" - I don't say, Yes.  That doesn't sell shit.
 
EDIT 3 (sorry for all the edits) - hell OPs only other response as a techie could have been "What monitor do you have" but that's about it.  Since he didn't have that information.  Because if hes (guy with rat poop case) driving his monitor to the max already, and doesn't (didn't say he was replacing that) understand that he is already pushing its limit - than you are just selling stuff to make money not "help" a person.

No, the poor spider.... I'm guessing he died in there since day one. It was at least a 5 year old build. Jesus christ. 

Sod the spider poor bloody Lizard

$870 with monitor, $780 without:
 
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8yBBb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8yBBb/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($164.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($187.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $870.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-19 01:01 EDT-0400
 
Much nicer mobo, great case (I've built in this, it's awesome), RX580 8GB.

I'd look at your local 2nd hand stuff. See if you could pick up an older gen i7. Then you could spend the extra money on a better GPU.
 
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/west-ipswich/desktops/selling-budget-1080p-fortnite-apex-legends-gaiming-pc/1213256119

For the same exact price, assuming this is primarily for gaming only, this build will provide way more gaming bang for your buck. The i5 will perform better in the majority of games, the RX 580 is a nice step up from the RX 570 and it's an 8GB variant instead of 4GB, the 1TB SSD ensures that you'll be gaming off of the SSD instead of the HDD for faster load times, and the tower is pretty decent to build in and looks cool (orange is what I picked but you can also get it in green, purple, yellow, and white):
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Amazon Motherboard Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $69.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $89.99 @ Amazon Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $119.00 @ B&H Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card $179.89 @ OutletPC Case DIYPC - DIY-F2-O MicroATX Mini Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $37.98 @ Newegg Monitor Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $89.99 @ Amazon   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $861.72   Mail-in rebates -$50.00   Total $811.72   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-19 01:22 EDT-0400    
Sure, it's nicer to have 2TB of storage, but at this price point, I'd trade that extra TB for the better overall performance, and no HDDs, but if you're dead set on storage capacity, go with your original setup using the 256GB SSD and the 2TB HDD for $10 cheaper.
 
Oh, and the monitor I picked is a nicer IPS panel as opposed to the TN panel. Plus it's a 75Hz refresh rate and it supports free-sync. That's a win-win.

lol amd almost gave me scare, but at least they're trying. 
Ah like my watermelon fruit drink, not watermelon fruit juice. I just hope amd catches up. 

I guess I am blissfully ignorant. Have used both AMD and Nivida GPUS and AMD intel and Cyrics(sp?) ( yeah I am old) and have always had the best performance and best stability with Intel/Nvidia. When 3dFX and Monster GPUs were the thing, I found AMD gave you the best bang for your buck. But in all my years in is IMHO that with a few exceptions they are all about the same and will get the job done.

lol if you're still considered a newbie then I must be one 9974 matches

Who wants to live forever, I've lived on Korean spicy ramen for a year once. 

Well that's your choice and sorry if some parts didn't sell at you area. 

Who wants to live forever, I've lived on Korean spicy ramen for a year once. 

No $500 builds dTTb
Not assumptions, if their 8 core matched Intel's 9900k even if ryzen R3 were 40% of  their 8 core  intel is in deep poopie. 

Usually I have my ssd run windows and game storage 
lol, coffee give me the jitters, I prefer milkshakes especially peanut butter jelly and banana with candy bacon. 

Agreed, but I wonder is the system on his pcpp is Al eady done or he intends to get? 
Because he can do a better build for less.