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Thats how this board is wired. The second pcie slot is wired to the chipset, so a max of pcie 2 x4. Nothing you can do on it.
 
THe 3770 can do 2 pcie 3 x8, but your board won't let it.
 
WHy have a second gpu for amf? Just use your main one, it won't make the rest the gaming slower as it has a deticated part of the gpu for encoding. 

Yep, its a deticated part of the gpu, and doesn't use the normal gpu cores. 

This statement is two things:
1. A PR move
2. A poor excuse to not ramp up manufacturing
 

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Honestly, this is a tired topic that is asked on a weekly basis. If you use the search function, I'm sure you'll find hundreds, if not thousands of threads going into this very question.

This won't help at all. You know what this will do? Make miners buy those packs.
Now not only do they get the card that really, they were going to buy anyway, now they get something they can sell to lower the overall cost of the card. There's nothing you can really do to stop this.

well, i can see that logic. honestly, i could always use a spare MB. or seven.

No reason? it's called supply and demand... and right now there's limited supply and lots of demand. 

sucks to be you but that doesn't mean you have the moral high ground to illegally rip off a company...

Then not only this is illegal, but it is also unethical. I would not laugh about it. 
You are basically promoting the failure of the shop you are buying into. 
If everyone acted like this in your country you are just hindering collective growth and development. GGs. 

Do you want to swap?
 

I'd never use the oven for food again due to all the lead fumes

Really ?!!
 
why do these blocks exist = because it's a simple way of recording transactions, of having history for any accounts, it's like pages in a book that keep track of past transactions.
who is using your hardware for the mining = nobody uses your hardware for mining. You're free to be a regular user who simply has a wallet with coins and buys stuff with them, or sells coins using the network of that coin. If you want to be a miner and be a part of the network and receive coins as reward, you can. If you don't, you can buy these coins like you'd do from any bank, money exchange, like you'd buy some foreign currency.
 
who determines how much value 1 ETH/BTC is worth = the people that buy or sell these coins on exchanges. I can go on an exchange and say I want to sell this amount for 1000$ and if someone wants to offer that much, i'll sell it to them.
why is any of this important or worth the $19,000 real  = imho bitcoin is not worth $19k because of lots of reasons but other cryptocurrencies are worth whatever the people using them deem they're worth due to the benefits they bring (decentralized, no banks involved or governments, no middle man, easy transfers of coins, low transaction fees, making it possible to do things with them in new ways)
 
If it's finite, how much cryptocurrency is available in total and when does it run out?
 
You can see how many coins some currencies have and their value here: https://coinmarketcap.com/
 
It varies from coin to coin and how it's designed. For some coins, they're designed in such a way as to account for inflation or for advances in hardware (for example, if it's twice as easy to mine a block, then the reward for mining a block is reduced to a half). Others have some thresholds at which amount issued is reduced ... for example, from block ### which will be mined in 2020, reward will be lowered to half the current reward.
 
For Ethereum, right now there's 97,165,135 ETH and like i said, every block that's created adds 3 ETH to the circulation. So you can do the math, there's only so many seconds in a year, you can figure out how much ETH is gonna be a year from now.
 
Any change to the system decided beforehand would have to be accepted by more than 51% of the miners in the network.. for example, because anyone can contribute to the source code behind Ethereum, I could contribute some code that would change the amount of ethereum issued for every block from 3 to 300 but in order for this change to be active, more than 51% of the miners would have to update to the new version of the software which includes my change, and they wouldn't because there's no benefit for them.  Anyone that uses a version of the software that's in minority will have their work (whatever they mine) invalidated and wouldn't get any rewards so they just waste money on electricity and all that.
In extreme cases, such disagreements result to forks, where you end up with two coins.. as it was the case with Ethereum and Ethereum Classic which are now two separate currencies... a large enough amount of people disagreed with some changes Ethereum developers agreed with, and they decided to create separate currency without those changes they didn't agree with.
 
 
What happens to all YOUR ETH/BTC when there is no more to mine?  = NOTHING, you still have it, you can still use it like regular money. What happens if the US government doesn't print dollars anymore? The current dollars are still in the world and you'd still be able to use them.  Why don't you worry about what happens when your US government prints more dollars every day?
If more people start using the coins, then being a finite amount the value of each coin would probably go up, and you'd pay less of that coin for the goods you buy .. instead of paying 0.1 ETH for a 10$ coffee, you may pay 0.00001 ETH for a coffee - doesn't matter  as long as the coffee shop gets 10$ for that 0.00001 ETH. There's like more than 10 decimals to play with. 
 
 
What's stopping somebody from just flipping the switch and making all of this imaginary money disappear? =  there's nobody to flip the switch, it's a decentralized system, lots of people using computers as nodes each having the whole blockchain, if one turns off their computer there's hundreds of other people holding that blockchain on their computers.
 
If you're really so thick as to not understand why it's helpful to have such crypto currencies then I'm sorry, but can't help you there. 
 
Just think what you could come up when you're a person that may not have access to credit cards, or in a country where they can't buy things online due to various restrictions. I'm sure you'd be able to come up with something
 
 

Sigh ... explaining in super simple terms.... and I'll use Ethereum for this as I did some reading on it compared to other coins.
 
The code of the coin is designed in such a way as to have a block created at a regular time interval, Ethereum has this set at 16 seconds. You have a lot of computers (miners) all over the world which are connected together to the network, and automatically it's determined that all these people can perform a certain number of calculations per second, so the "difficulty" of mining is scaled automatically so that a new block will be discovered in 16 seconds. Sometimes it's a bit less, sometimes it's a bit more, it's self scaling aiming to be at 16 seconds.
These blocks are added to the blockchain and each block is basically a ledger, it contains a list of transactions, account creations, changes to accounts... basically the miner that discovers the block needs to pick a bunch of pending transactions from the network and include them in the block and then submit the block to the network where it's appended to the chain. If this is successful, this miner is rewarded with 3 Ethereum, plus around 0.5 eth from all those included transactions (when you want to transfer some money to someone, you send the amount and you also specify that you're willing to pay up to some value in transaction fees).
Those 3 ETH are "born" when that block is appended to the chain and the miner receives it as reward for mining (using up electricity, aging hardware etc) and for adding those transactions to the blockchain.
The idea behind mining is that the waste of electricity, the aging of hardware, all that is a way to prevent bad people from easily trying to subvert the blockchain, to add bad blocks, to add fake transactions. If you're a bad miner and you try to add a block to the chain with some fake transactions, the other miners in the network inspect the block and its contents and majority will reject your block and you lose that 3 ETH and you lose time and money in electricity.
 
You're wrong when you say nobody did anything to earn it - the miner invested money in hardware, invested money in electricity, in cooling the hardware, and provides a service to the network  ... think of the miners as the datacenters where VISA or Mastercard store hundreds of servers which have the only purpose of validating transactions between accounts - each time you go at a store and swipe your card, that swipe goes to a datacenter to one of hundreds or thousands of computers "wasting electricity" while waiting to receive transactions to validate and then tell banks to move money between accounts.
 
Visa and Mastercard don't make those credit cards work for free, they charge shop owners with a fixed amount of money and some percentage of total transaction cost every time you swipe a card .. here's an article showing some fees  - instead of the shop owner paying visa or mastercard, you pay the miner that puts your transaction in the block directly a smaller fee, and the miner also gets a reward for mining.
 
The beauty of a blockchain is that anyone can download the whole chain from start to the current block (for ethereum it's currently at around 450-500 GB but a "light node" only needs around 60 GB) and if you have a wallet address, you can go through each block and make a list of transactions and changes from the creation of the wallet to the current block. If you have those keys of the wallet, wherever you are in the world, you can make payments or receive payments in your wallet.
 
The money created when blocks are created is finite and limited supply... it's not like how a government can create millions of dollars over night by selling bonds (basically promises) or how the government gives loans to big banks and car companies so they won't fail
 
The actual value of the coin depends on the finite amount and the value people and investors put it it, how much they're willing to buy coins and sell coins for, you can easily go to an exchange or trading website and buy or sell these coins. And.. it's almost instant, unlike regular stocks where you sometimes place buy or sell orders and you get the money days after.

Ethereum has value because it provides a platform on which various applications can work, and on which you can create tokens and do stuff, it's "smart contracts" , "Smart money" .. lots of things.  It has a lot of benefits besides just "store of value" which Bitcoin kinda is these days.
 
In the case of Ethereum, they also plan to add "proof of stake" besides "proof of work" - so instead of mining you basically put some amount of ETH as a collateral, you kinda "lock" them in a "safety deposit box"  for some duration. During this time, you engage as a validator making sure the transactions are valid and you add such transactions to blocks and keep the network functioning and you also validate the blocks other former miners try to create. Some "miners" check your work, you check other miners work, and if everyone agrees a block is then added to the chain and everyone that collaborated to that block addition is rewarded some percentage, based on how much they put as collateral at the beginning. If you add some transactions that prove to be fake or bad and other member catch that, you would be fined some amount, and you may lose some part of that collateral.... so it's in your best interest to be a correct, honest validator.
You still have to "block" some funds for a duration of time, you still need to  have a computer performing some computations, verifying transactions but you won't have to mine and use as much electricity and potentially this could mean creating blocks at smaller periods of time (because there's a limited number of transactions that can be recorded in a block, and if more people will use ethereum the whole network will be constantly at peak capacity otherwise. 

money > gaming. with more money you can afford expensive gpus and more games.......... 

Miners do not use GPUs to mine bitcoin.  ASICs are used.  Mining with a GPU for that coin went out the window years ago.
Most of what the GPUs are used to mine are the alt coins which follow the value of Bitcoin.  Those are then traded over into Bitcoin or sold for currency.

There are ASIC resistant coins like Ethereum or any other Equihash based coin - the algorithm behind the coin is designed in such a way as to require lots of memory and lots of FAST memory ... currently in order to mine Ethereum for example, the mining software uses up to around 2.4 GB of memory on the video card and reads bytes from that chunk of data at a speed of around 160-200 GB/s
 
If someone wants to create an ASIC he or she would have to license or make an expensive GDDR5 memory controller which adds loads of surface area to the chip making it way more expensive to make compared to other ASICs for other coins, and he still has to buy 4 GB of GDDR5 for each chip.
 
You can't use a SDRAM or DDR1/2/3 memory controller that may be available open source to mine ethereum, the bandwidth of such memory types is just too little (20-50 GB/s compared to 5-10x that on video cards)
 
The ASICs used to mine bitcoin for example are made out of lots of very tiny chips (a 2-3000$ ASIC has something like 168 chips each with some tiny amount of work memory, like 1-64 MB of memory)... as an analogy it's like trying to make a mining rig with 2-300 video cards, each maybe 1/4 of what a RX 550 card can do
 

*Checking bank account
*Still not rich
*/cries

Give this a read. It's called supply and demand.

I mean saying that cryptocurrency needs to die as a whole is kinda right and wrong.  I mean yes everyone is allowed there own opinion on the issue but saying that it should die is maybe going just a little too far.

All of them support 1.4 and below. The previous generation only supported up to DP 1.2, so they describe these cards as having "DP 1.3 and DP 1.4 support" added as a new feature.

You must realize with the amount of people invested in it, and the kind of money invested in it... No way it crashes.

This right here is true... The miners need to understand this. And the gamer need to realize it's not a bubble that's going to burst. It's just a thing that will for the foreseeable future, exist.

I liked to buy 4 Rx 580.
Are u a miner sir?
No i am not.
$1950 in total enjoy your 4way crossfire.
Thank you.