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This might sound stupid, but I don't understand how this device is blowing air through it to cool the component that sits underneath it. I don't see any fans on it. How is it cooling/blowing air through the chamber?

Guys i am able to see linus's channel with all videos exactly like how they were i think the channel is recovered
 

Honestly a very swift recovery. Credit where credit is due to the YouTube/Google staff.
 
Next WAN show is going to be interesting...

He became the full time CEO not long after.
 
 

Thanks for the guidance. 

The answer should always be: buy what ever product fits your needs for the price you're willing to pay. 

Nope, when building a desktop you should always buy the best performing product in your price range.  Whether Intel has something competitive at that point in time dictates if you stick with AMD or swap to Intel.   Anything you hear about there future products is basically speculation until it happens.    Products and prices change frequently,  sometimes its a new product and sometimes is a damned virus upsetting the supply chain.  

This looks legit to me. But what do I know?

All fine and well until Apple one day decides to flip the switch unannounced and MacOS will REQUIRE their T2 chip for more than just security. Your storage drives, installed software, copy of the OS and even boot permissions will be tied to that unique soldered chip that only they provide on their motherboards and laptops.
 
We can speculate why this hasn't happened yet, but you can be sure Apple will find a way to make installing and booting MacOS on anything other than their own hardware a no-go pretty soon.
 
Yeah, that overpriced cheese grater they want you to buy for heavy lifting will be the only way forward for serious use. Start saving your money now.

So how did Linus eventually solve the 01D POST error code?
 
Seems like in every video where Linus has problems, the edits are done so skip how he solved the problem and go immediately to the conclusion...frustrating when you want to know *HOW* Linus solved the problem...

We're moving quad cores to high end and hexa cores to mainstream, they won't know what hit em.

Still better than WCCF Tech.
 

WHY IS IT ALWAYS GEEKBENCH?!?

It kinda seems like you didn't pay close attention while watching the video... (or maybe you didn't watch until the conclusion I guess, but then I'd be questioning why you're commenting on the video at all...)

Either way, here's our conclusion, word for word:

"So 7900X then? Great performance, and compared to Broadwell-E, GREAT price. Great release then, right? In a vacuum, yes, but.. the elephant that hasn’t yet entered the room is AMD’s Threadripper. Intel is faced with the disadvantage of having shot first with X299, and AMD has some time to tweak their upcoming “Threadripper” CPU lineup which it’s said will be available with up to 16 cores and SIXTY FOUR PCIe lanes.. so they COULD put the gears to Intel on pricing – at which time Intel – whose 12, 14, 16, and 18 core models will be arriving between August and Q4 this year – will have to figure how to respond, if at all!
… So you know what? I AM still frustrated that it took Intel this long to wake up.. and I DO still think this CPU lineup is unnecessarily confusing, but WHATEVER their motivation – AMD’s innovation or their unconditional love for enthusiasts – it’s true. This is a great release because we’re back to Intel and AMD playing leapfrog, and that’s just great!"
 
So to address your points...
 
Linus said this was a great release
He said it would be a great release in a vacuum. AKA without Threadripper coming along in an unspecified amount of time, and without all of the garbage that they're doing with different "levels" of X299 chips (which is fully explained in the Taipei video that was referenced early in the Core i9 review - it would be a waste of everyone's time to simply reiterate points we've already made when we can simply reference to another video on our channel. Referencing other videos for further information is something we do all the time).
 
for those rocking Broadwell-E's you should definitely consider an upgrade
We don't even come CLOSE to saying that. What we did say is that the 7900X provides a better value than Broadwell-E did at its ridiculous $1,700 pricepoint... "... and compared to Broadwell-E, GREAT price" is the closest line I can find to what you're claiming here. That's true - $1,000 for a 10-Core CPU is a better value than $1,700 for a 10-Core CPU.
 
don't mind AMD releasing Threadripper with 64 pcie lanes
The 64 PCIe lanes on Threadripper were referenced directly in the conclusion. Epyc is a server chip, so it wouldn't make a ton of sense to compare a 7900X to Epyc.
 
Tl;dr watching or reading reviews and other content online with a certain level of doubt is a fantastic practice, and I encourage you to read/watch multiple sources (and do your own independent research if possible) before forming an opinion on anything. But when you're making claims about how we're essentially paid shills for Intel, at least make sure your claims are actually backed up by fact before you attempt to make them.

Appreciate the feedback! I've seen a few comments saying it was in poor taste, but hopefully it's apparent to most that the intent was not to emulate certain groups in the public eye right now, but rather reference a few of our previous videos poking fun at Intel and what people's expectations were following Linus' Computex rant.  

Top SKU is somewhere between 3000 and 3200, apparently, depending on who's been running it.  But that's also pretty much 2 1800X working together at stock clocks. I fully expect to see the top SKU Threadripper getting 3500 to 3600 Cinebench R15 under a high all-core OC. (Obviously on a very large Rad.) 
 
Skylake-X scores are coming in almost exactly at Kabylake scores. So you can pretty much predict, the scores by taking a 7700k, at stock, and multiplying its Multi-core score by the Core Count / 4.  That should top out the i7-7900X (10c/20t part) at around 2700 in Cinebench under a high all-core OC.  This is going to roughly similar to the 12c Threadripper model.
 
That's actually what Intel is most concerned about. The Clock difference (much more than the IPC difference) is what they have going for them. Once you start talking 14 cores compared to 10 cores, Intel is going to be rather far down.  It gets weirder once you hit 16c & 18c on SK-X though, as those are going to be much lower clocked than the 10c and below parts.  Ryzen 7 can't clock over 4.1 Ghz because of Process issues; not the architecture. That means the performance we see, currently, is capped by a non-thermal limit.  Thus you can slap two of them together and they're going to perform pretty dang close to simply putting two of them together. 
 
There's so many angles to all of this.  I find it utterly fascinating. AMD's performance deficit compared to Intel in all but gaming goes away when you can simply throw more cores at the problem, and it adds a few other benefits when you do that.  If you're a heavy VM users, more cores = more VMs. You need enough power for those VMs, but you don't need super high clocks for them.  If you can rock a 16c32t at Consumer-level Gaming Speeds for 1/2 the price of the Intel offering, that's going to be valuable for a lot of use cases.
 
This explains why Intel has responded they way they have. They added the 12c, originally, because they knew details of Ryzen in late 2016. They wanted to push their HEDT stack far enough away from Ryzen 7 that it doesn't make much sense to use it as a cheap HEDT setup.  (Even if it'll work for almost all of those work flows.) Once Threadripper became more than just a few engineering samples, Intel set about to addressing the problem.  Which should be around Jan/Feb 2017.  That explains the time-line, finally.
 
- 2015 Cannon Lake was "canceled" and replaced with Icelake for 10 nm. Cannon Lake is, still, actually happening but not in the normal desktop space.
- In 2016, X299 got the 4 core Kaby Lake because there was issues with 10 nm, plus some odd uses cases for 4c parts on the platform. (Cheap to do?)
- Mid 2016, they added Coffee Lake for Z370 as another mid-cycle refresh because the die-shrink wasn't happening on schedule.
- Late 2016, Intel seems to have looked to move Coffee Lake up to late 2017/early 2018, depending on model range. (Probably timed for 10-12 months before Icelake in 2018.)
- Late 2016, detailed Ryzen information gets to Intel. HEDT could be a problem even with IPC/Clock advantage with just a 10c part against Ryzen 7 with 8c.  Intel adds 12c by pillaging from Xeons.
- March 2017, Snowy Owl becomes Threadripper on HEDT. Intel really panics to find an 18c part by digging even deeper into the Xeon stack that's coming on Skylake-EX / EP platforms.
- May 2017, Computex leaves everyone confused about what Intel was doing.
 
Aligning the timeline explains what happened.  Intel got hit with a 4 separate issues. 1) 10 nm on Mainstream will be 2 full years late. 2) Yearly Product Refreshes were inserted because timing became a mess and Intel will keep grinding uplift from small process & architecture tweaks.  3) Ryzen came out 20% better than even AMD was expecting. 4) Questionable 4c on X299 became more questionable when 12c was added; problem compounded with adding 14c, 16c and 18c parts.
 
Yes, X299 is a real mess. And, just to make the situation worse, Intel brought back Motherboard dongles because they'd end up cannibalizing their own product segmentation.

AMD is very happy it seems
 

someone please explain to me why a desktop computer needs ECC ram.
 
mac or not.
 
is someone going to bit flip my ram or something har har

using a network share would be against the rules, part of the challenge is your computer needs to be good enough to do EVERYTHING within your budget. meaning having the storage capacity to be usable as a standalone computer.
 
it's on floatplane club and some douche nuggets that deserve to lose their floatplane club memberships downloaded the file from floatplane then uploaded it to places like Google Drive and other file sharing sites, I have done what I can to delete the links posted in my pinned comment, hopefully others will follow suit. having avoided the other comments since it was posted to floatplane I cannot confirm anything more then what was shown in episode 3 in that Linus clearly cheated by changing the hardware he was going to buy after the guy recognized him and Paul and Kyle mentioned something about stealing a hard drive from somewhere. If you ask me NOBODY won, everyone cheated.

Intel my question to you is what cards are you holding up your sleeve? I know you all aren't stupid (quit acting like it), in fact you have some quite brilliant people. Please pull some of that hidden brilliant engineering out of your butt you've kept hiding.
 
AMD keep it up, and thank you for forcing Intel to release some of their deck.

Next Scrapyard Wars I vote to extend the time spent on it, like give 3 days to make your plan and get hardware then add a 4th and 5th day for case mods, testing and overclocking, things are just to rushed at the last second of day 3 it just results in cheating like,
 

"Could you be less of a dick" - Linus

Edit: Linus has some words about x299
 
 
Kind of suprised that Intel has nothing ready yet.
 
Source:http://wccftech.com/intels-skylake-x-core-i9-7980x-wont-be-available-until-next-year/
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?93632-Late-June&p=653561&viewfull=1#post653561
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11464/intel-announces-skylakex-bringing-18core-hcc-silicon-to-consumers-for-1999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE&t=755s
 

RE: "I have some things to say - Core i9 & X299"   I've really missed this style of video. It feels like everyone's using the same techniques and equipment these days to the point of everything looking overprocessed and coming off as bland. I like that this feels raw and unscripted - makes it feel more personal, and I want to interact more as a result. This is actually the first time I've come to the forums fresh off a video just to say so.   With that out of the way, it really felt like AMD was pulling punches with Ryzen in comparison to the hype they generated for their then-future lineup. I don't buy into the idea that this was to take Intel by surprise as some have posed elsewhere, but I do find it interesting that they put Ryzen out, performing in close proximity to Intel's comparable offerings, followed by nonchalantly announcing Threadripper as though it were just another product announcement shortly after.        

Yup, nice to see the serious side for once. 
I can't be the only one who likes these kinds of videos much more than the DIY heatsink and drilling holes through motherboard stuff.