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My past middle school friend in Vegas decided to give me a Skype call and asked me this.

Can you help me make a $500-$530 gaming PC with moniter, keyboard mouse. I decided I'll try, becuase he's been on console since I became friends with him. This is what I got so far, I can help him with windows.... LEGALLY BTW I don't like to pirate OS. Also this is another person different from my other post here.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VWRFNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VWRFNG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-7870K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: PNY Anarchy X 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.98 @ Best Buy)

Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Amazon)

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.00 @ NCIX US)

Total: $515.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Gaming PC with an APU...you must be new here.

no I am not, so we're is your suggestion then?
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APU = Gaming PC?

 

Really? If his budget's too low, just tell him no.

i tried telling him that, but he wants a PC to play games at that budget.
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CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($59.78 @ OutletPC)
Memory: PNY Anarchy X 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.98 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card  ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($26.00 @ NCIX US)
Total: $507.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $654.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Best possible low budget build

Intel Core i3 2100 @ 3.10GHz - Intel Stock Cooler - Zotac Geforce GT 610 2GB Synergy Edition

Intel DH61WW - Corsair® Value Select 4GBx1 DDR3 1600 MHz - Antec BP-300P PSU

WD Green 1TB - Seagate 2.5" HDD 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 500GB - Antec X1 E.

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My past middle school friend in Vegas decided to give me a Skype call and asked me this.

Can you help me make a $500-$530 gaming PC with moniter, keyboard mouse. I decided I'll try, becuase he's been on console since I became friends with him. This is what I got so far, I can help him with windows.... LEGALLY BTW I don't like to pirate OS. Also this is another person different from my other post here.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VWRFNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VWRFNG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-7870K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: PNY Anarchy X 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.98 @ Best Buy)

Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Amazon)

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.00 @ NCIX US)

Total: $515.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-29 11:18 EDT-0400

I would suggest swapping out the A10 for an 860k w/ dedicated graphics. It's basically the same CPU anyway.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b9M3pg

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($69.89 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus A88XM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($55.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.98 @ Best Buy)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Amazon)

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($26.00 @ NCIX US)

Total: $504.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-29 11:30 EDT-0400

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Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 



Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.00 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($51.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 


Total: $521.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-29 11:32 EDT-0400

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($63.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($59.78 @ OutletPC)

Memory: PNY Anarchy X 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($51.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.98 @ Best Buy)

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card  ($77.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Amazon)

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($26.00 @ NCIX US)

Total: $507.69

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-29 11:25 EDT-0400

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I 2nd this build!

 

It's best to go with an Intel processor for gaming.

 

Even at dual core... the Intel dual core processor beats many of the quad core AMD processors.

 

The only difference is that I would have picked out an Intel Z97 chipset based motherboard such as this one shown below. 

Why? That motherboard gives the user future upgrade options as far as processors go. The user can upgrade to an i5-4690k or the i7-4790k, those are 2 examples that come into mind.

 

 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($84.80 @ Amazon) 
Total: $84.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU -- Intel Core i7 7740X @ 4.30GHz Kaby Lake 14nm Technology * RAM -- 16.0 GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1466MHz (15-16-16-35)
Motherboard -- ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF X299 MARK 2 (LGA 2066 R4) * 
Graphics -- SAMSUNG (1920x1080@59Hz) -- 4096 MB ATI Radeon RX 560 Series 
Storage -- 223 GB SanDisk Ultra II 240GB (SSD) -- 256 GB Crucial_CT275MX300SSD1 (SSD) -- 931 GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00BN5A0 (SATA) -- 2794 GB BUFFALO External HDD USB Device
Optical Drives -- ASUS DRW-24B1ST * Audio -- Realtek High Definition Audio

 

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I 2nd this build!

 

It's best to go with an Intel processor for gaming.

 

Even at dual core... the Intel dual core processor beats many of the quad core AMD processors.

 

The only difference is that I would have picked out an Intel Z97 chipset based motherboard such as this one shown below.

 

 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($84.80 @ Amazon) 
Total: $84.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Picking that motherboard puts him way over budget.

Also, going with an AMD 860K can save money, so that the OP can go with a GTX 750 TI instead of the vanilla 750. I also found a 750 Ti that was only ~$15 more expensive compared to the 750 in the post you quoted.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($96.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.60 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card  ($190.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $540.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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yeah its FX.... OC that FX a little and you'd be good...

you can either roll with that or an i3...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.60 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card  ($190.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $520.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($96.89 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($55.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.60 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card  ($190.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.00 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $540.44

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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yeah its FX....

 

you can either roll with that or an i3... would be equally good

You've gone over budget, and not included the Monitor, keyboard, and mouse, like the OP specified as a requirement. That build is super over budget when the monitor is included.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.60 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer KN242HYL 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech MK200 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($14.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $519.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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ive included a GOOD IPS monitor... (cuz this is the little brother of a monitor that served me for many many many YEARS)

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I'll just try to save on everything and use the remaining cash for the gpu http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FpX2cf

You're like $50 over budget, and an Aftermarket CPU heatsink is a waste of money unless they intend on doing any serious Overclocking.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ NCIX US)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($56.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.60 @ Amazon)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.00 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Monitor: Acer KN242HYL 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($129.99 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Logitech MK200 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($14.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $519.53

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-29 12:16 EDT-0400

 

 

ive included a GOOD IPS monitor... (cuz this is the little brother of a monitor that served me for many many many YEARS)

That's a good monitor, sure, but the lack of a dedicated GPU will severely hurt gaming performance. Swap out the A10 for the 860K (pretty much the same CPU anyway), get rid of the aftermarket cooler, and put in a 750/750 Ti or AMD equivalent.

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You're like $50 over budget, and an Aftermarket CPU heatsink is a waste of money unless they intend on doing any serious Overclocking.

So this is $500-$530 without mail-in rebates?

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So this is $500-$530 without mail-in rebates?

My apologies, I missed the MIR discount:

Base Total:     $580.84         

Mail-in Rebates:     -$75.00         

Shipping:     $1.99         

Total:     $507.83

 

Not bad for that price tag. I'd still suggest dumping the Aftermarket cooler so you can use that money elsewhere in the build.

 

Although - to be fair - the OP should probably clarify if MIR discounts are alright, since you have to pay for them upfront, and wait 3-6+ months for the rebate to get paid out.

 

I also have no idea if that Monitor is any good - may want to consider using the cash saved on the Cooler to get a better monitor.

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You're like $50 over budget, and an Aftermarket CPU heatsink is a waste of money unless they intend on doing any serious Overclocking.

 

That's a good monitor, sure, but the lack of a dedicated GPU will severely hurt gaming performance. Swap out the A10 for the 860K (pretty much the same CPU anyway), get rid of the aftermarket cooler, and put in a 750/750 Ti or AMD equivalent.

actually, its not that bad...

 

At 1080p, with todays drivers in most games, you can hit 30FPS... not stellar, but you know...

With DX12, i would guess said performance to rise up to 45FPS maybe even 60FPS... If you OC the iGPU (really easy) to around 960MHz to 1050 MHz, you will see massive performance gain (it starts at 720MHz). CPU OC can help, but iGPU OC just REALLY helps...

 

If you OC the memory too, which is annoying to do, but ASrocks BIOS is very nice for OCing, with lots of options (gigabyte sucks, its like a desert, even the A88X chipset, been using both brands for my 7850k builds).

 

I could go on and on and on. But you would be wise to trust me when i say that the 7850k is far from BAD... Sure a 750Ti is better, but you cannot really get that within budget... because you would have to drop down to a A68 board... which wont let you OC the CPU side of the 860k. In which case it wont be great... if you OC the 860k, it will be great, seriously great...

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actually, its not that bad...

 

At 1080p, with todays drivers in most games, you can hit 30FPS... not stellar, but you know...

With DX12, i would guess said performance to rise up to 45FPS maybe even 60FPS... If you OC the iGPU (really easy) to around 960MHz to 1050 MHz, you will see massive performance gain (it starts at 720MHz). CPU OC can help, but iGPU OC just REALLY helps...

 

If you OC the memory too, which is annoying to do, but ASrocks BIOS is very nice for OCing, with lots of options (gigabyte sucks, its like a desert, even the A88X chipset, been using both brands for my 7850k builds).

 

I could go on and on and on. But you would be wise to trust me when i say that the 7850k is far from BAD... Sure a 750Ti is better, but you cannot really get that within budget... because you would have to drop down to a A68 board... which wont let you OC the CPU side of the 860k. In which case it wont be great... if you OC the 860k, it will be great, seriously great...

You're incorrect though.

 

1. Yes, a 7870k isn't that bad. It's a solid very low budget option, and great for HTPC's.

2. I DID make a build, in budget, with both an A88x chipset and a 750 Ti. Go ahead and see for yourself.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.98 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card  ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($8.49 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6800 Wired Optical Mouse  ($14.77 @ Newegg)
Total: $596.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 



Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($42.99 @ NCIX US) 

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 


Total: $531.85

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Yea he doesn't wanna put in more money, I just told him to just save for now, and get something better, than get it now and cry bout wat u got.

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Yea he doesn't wanna put in more money, I just told him to just save for now, and get something better, than get it now and cry bout wat u got.

Well that's your and his call. Even now, it's still difficult to build a gaming computer really worth it, for a price similar to that of console gaming. Next year when Greenland and Pascal come out, we'll likely start to see the true console killer PC's coming out - ones that can actually and thoroughly beat a console at the same price.

 

But then, console prices will likely go down next year too, so I don't know, it could balance itself out.

 

As you no doubt saw, there were quite a few excellent builds for $500-$530 that people showed you - most of them (well - the ones with dedicated GPU's anyway) would be good gaming PC's.

 

But if he can save an extra hundred or two hundred dollars, he'll get a much better value. A $700 gaming PC is a lot better than a $500 - especially with a monitor included in the price.

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Well that's your and his call. Even now, it's still difficult to build a gaming computer really worth it, for a price similar to that of console gaming. Next year when Greenland and Pascal come out, we'll likely start to see the true console killer PC's coming out - ones that can actually and thoroughly beat a console at the same price.

 

But then, console prices will likely go down next year too, so I don't know, it could balance itself out.

 

As you no doubt saw, there were quite a few excellent builds for $500-$530 that people showed you - most of them (well - the ones with dedicated GPU's anyway) would be good gaming PC's.

 

But if he can save an extra hundred or two hundred dollars, he'll get a much better value. A $700 gaming PC is a lot better than a $500 - especially with a monitor included in the price.

u just made a complicated version of what I kinda told him. xD
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