3930K vs 4770k vs 2700K

[Mini0510]

Hi, I can get all 3 CPU.

 

2700K can reach 4.9Ghz at 1.44v. Never tried to ran that high but just tested. I will run adaptive voltage if I decide to use this.

3930K didn't test yet.

4770K is at 4.5Ghz 1.36v stable but set to adaptive for everyday use.

 

I'm not sure which one to keep. I only play games, most CPU intensive one is probably BF4/BFH multiplayer.

 

1. DX12 is going to be out. 3930K with its 6C/12T might be appealing in gaming now. 

3930K might seem appealing but price is a concern. We are not even sure DX12 will dramatic increase multi thread performances.

 

2. 2700k at 4.9Ghz is not bad. The only issue is that I have 2 GTX 980 SLI. PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 vs PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 (with 4770K) is like a 5% decrease in performance.

And CPU degradation is a concern. But I think I'll be fine with adaptive voltage.

 

Or I can just try them out for fun and learning. I got the 3930K for fairly cheap and going to get 2700k + mobo for pretty cheap as well.

[slay english]

For sli Id go with the 4770k. I have a single 980ti and my 2700k is more than enough for now.

[-iSynthesis]

Obviously the 4.9GHz 2700k looks nice, though that is a high voltage for everyday use. Also, you may not be able to use it with your dual 980tis because Nvidia requires it to be at least pcie 3.0 x8 which would be x16 on 2.0. The 4770k will give you probably the best gaming performance right now. The 3930k will run games nicely aswell with it having a large benefit if you stream/render.

 

/R.I.P. English i know  :unsure:  :unsure:

[arvark]

3930k, a beast!

[Mini0510]

2700K is old shiz. It's 2nd generation, which means it was manufactured a long time ago, and it won't be able to do a lot of tasks 5th and 6th generation CPU's will be able to perform today. 

 

3930K is definitley a step up, and the Ivy Bridge CPU's were indeed a fine series in Intel's lineup. However, you still won't be able to get as much juice as you regularly would be able to on a Haswell-DT, Haswell-E or Skylake CPU nowadays.

 

The 4770K is your best bet. It may be a bit more expensive then the others, but it's worth it. It's the newest of the three, and it will be able to keep up pace with the modern CPU's nowadays.

 

But in actuality, the optimal CPU for you would be the either the 4690K or the 4790K. One is an i5, and one is an i7, but they still make a tremendous jump in performance over the 4770K. If you're just playing games, the 4690K will be fine. But if you want to expand into some rendering or video/photo editing, go for the 4790K. The only disadvantage is that the 4690K doesn't support hyperthreading. 

 

i5 would not cut. Had 4670K at 4.2Ghz. it was a bottleneck for dual GPU setups in BF multiplayers

 

 

Obviously the 4.9GHz 2700k looks nice, though that is a high voltage for everyday use. Also, you may not be able to use it with your dual 980tis because Nvidia requires it to be at least pcie 3.0 x8 which would be x16 on 2.0. The 4770k will give you probably the best gaming performance right now. The 3930k will run games nicely aswell with it having a large benefit if you stream/render.

 

/R.I.P. English i know   :unsure:   :unsure:

 

adaptive voltage? if I decide to use 2700K

[Sintezza]

2700K is old shiz. It's 2nd generation, which means it was manufactured a long time ago, and it won't be able to do a lot of tasks 5th and 6th generation CPU's will be able to perform today. 

 

 

Uh what?

 

the 2700K might be an older chip with slightly "older" architecture.

Its still a rock sollid chip.

If you overclock the chip, it still can keep up with todays haswell chips in gaming for example.

 

Also in terms of tasks, it can do just as much tasks as any other intel ms i7.

THe biggest advantage that current Haswell chips have, is AVX2 which realy helps in rendering.

But it highly depends on the render application, if its going to take the advantage from it.

 

The only big limitation that the 2700k has, is 16 pci-e 2.0 lanes.

But with a single gpu, that doesnt realy matter.

Topic starter wants to use a 980 Sli, so in that case the 2700K is no go.

[i_build_nanosuits]

-2700K is old shiz.

-3930K is definitley a step up, and the Ivy Bridge CPU's were indeed a fine series in Intel's lineup.

-The 4770K is your best bet

-2700K is older but still good, but really not as good as the 4770K

-3930K is ALSO sandy-bridge...it's the same as the 2700K with 2 extra cores...again for gaming not as good as the 4770K

-4770K is indeed the most powerful chip when it comes to gaming, the only way to surpass this is the 4790K which overclock slightly better, same performance though...go with the 4770K it's the superior chip here unless in a workstation environment in which the 3930K would be beneficial.

[Nena Trinity]

4770K!

[Glenwing]

Obviously the 4.9GHz 2700k looks nice, though that is a high voltage for everyday use. Also, you may not be able to use it with your dual 980tis because Nvidia requires it to be at least pcie 3.0 x8 which would be x16 on 2.0. The 4770k will give you probably the best gaming performance right now. The 3930k will run games nicely aswell with it having a large benefit if you stream/render.

 

/R.I.P. English i know  :unsure:  :unsure:

SLI only requires x8 lanes. It doesn't matter which generation, 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0. So yes Gen2 x8/x8 is fine (although Gen3 x4/x4 is not allowed even though it's the same). It is just an arbitrary NVIDIA requirement, not for any technical reasons.

Yes, the 2700K is still a rock solid chip. But, Sandy Bridge is crushed by Haswell-DT and it comes nowhere near. I forgot that the 2700K only supports PCI-e 16, but I was just thinking about OP's needs. I do think he could benefit from the 4790K, and I didn't see an issue with the 4690K until you added the comment on bottlenecks. Personally, I used to own a 4690K and two reference 770's and I never expirenced and bottleneck problems at all. But, those were old cards and the circumstances may have been different.

Crushed? Haswell is barely stronger than Sandy Bridge.

PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 isn't a huge bottleneck for dual 980s in most cases, though it will depend on the game. Even when it is, it isn't a big one.

[Bordermick]

Id go for the 3930k, I love my 3930

[Mini0510]

SLI only requires x8 lanes. It doesn't matter which generation, 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0. So yes Gen2 x8/x8 is fine (although Gen3 x4/x4 is not allowed even though it's the same). It is just an arbitrary NVIDIA requirement, not for any technical reasons.

Crushed? Haswell is barely stronger than Sandy Bridge.

PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 isn't a huge bottleneck for dual 980s in most cases, though it will depend on the game. Even when it is, it isn't a big one.

But I don't think a 5Ghz 2700K with PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 will beat 4.5Ghz 4770K PCIe 3.0 x8/x8

 

Of course cost is a concern as well, even though I'm getting them cheap.

[Jumper118]

But I don't think a 5Ghz 2700K with PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 will beat 4.5Ghz 4770K PCIe 3.0 x8/x8

 

Of course cost is a concern as well, even though I'm getting them cheap.

in a game there is no difference. going from pci 2 to 3 makes no difference, even at 4K its less than 1 fps.  

 

2700K is old shiz. It's 2nd generation, which means it was manufactured a long time ago, and it won't be able to do a lot of tasks 5th and 6th generation CPU's will be able to perform today. 

 

3930K is definitley a step up, and the Ivy Bridge CPU's were indeed a fine series in Intel's lineup. However, you still won't be able to get as much juice as you regularly would be able to on a Haswell-DT, Haswell-E or Skylake CPU nowadays.

 

The 4770K is your best bet. It may be a bit more expensive then the others, but it's worth it. It's the newest of the three, and it will be able to keep up pace with the modern CPU's nowadays.

 

But in actuality, the optimal CPU for you would be the either the 4690K or the 4790K. One is an i5, and one is an i7, but they still make a tremendous jump in performance over the 4770K. If you're just playing games, the 4690K will be fine. But if you want to expand into some rendering or video/photo editing, go for the 4790K. The only disadvantage is that the 4690K doesn't support hyperthreading. 

wow. you should probably know what your talking about before posting. all of what you isn't true apart form the bits in bold.

[bomerr]

i5 would not cut. Had 4670K at 4.2Ghz. it was a bottleneck for dual GPU setups in BF multiplayers

 

i think you are doing something wrong. 

 

all three of those CPUs should give you near identical gaming performance. 

[Mini0510]

in a game there is no difference. going from pci 2 to 3 makes no difference, even at 4K its less than 1 fps.  

I have 2 980s and driving 150fps for my 144Hz monitor. Where did you get your info that it's less than 1 fps?

 

 

i think you are doing something wrong. 

 

all three of those CPUs should give you near identical gaming performance. 

 

Then you clearly have not tried i5 and i7 in BF4 multiplayer with high end dual GPU. Because I tried with dual 290x and dual 980s. i7 got 20% more min fps and 50% more max fps. 

And I'm not playing at 60Hz, but 144Hz. You need a more powerful CPU to drive more fps from a multi GPU setup

[Jumper118]

 

I have 2 980s and driving 150fps for my 144Hz monitor. Where did you get your info that it's less than 1 fps?

 

 

 

Then you clearly have not tried i5 and i7 in BF4 multiplayer with high end dual GPU. Because I tried with dual 290x and dual 980s. i7 got 20% more min fps and 50% more max fps. 

And I'm not playing at 60Hz, but 144Hz. You need a more powerful CPU to drive more fps from a multi GPU setup

 

2 970's running at 4k. 

[Mini0510]

2 970's running at 4k. 

So you tested both PCIe 2.0 and PCIe 3.0? like through some sort of CPU + motherboard upgrade?

[Jumper118]

So you tested both PCIe 2.0 and PCIe 3.0? like through some sort of CPU + motherboard upgrade?

yes i had both a 2500K, 2550K,2600K (PCIE 2.0) and 3770K and G3258 which are 3.0.

[bomerr]

 

Then you clearly have not tried i5 and i7 in BF4 multiplayer with high end dual GPU. Because I tried with dual 290x and dual 980s. i7 got 20% more min fps and 50% more max fps. 

And I'm not playing at 60Hz, but 144Hz. You need a more powerful CPU to drive more fps from a multi GPU setup

 

An i7 isn't a more powerful CPU than an i5, it just has hyper threading which doesn't really matter for games. 

 

FYI you're the first person saying i7 is "20% more min fps and 50% more max fps." Everyone else says the difference is basically nil. 

[Mini0510]

yes i had both a 2500K, 2550K,2600K (PCIE 2.0) and 3770K and G3258 which are 3.0.

Did you try it with a game which you had over 100fps? And you still can't really tell the difference?

[Mini0510]

An i7 isn't a more powerful CPU than an i5, it just has hyper threading which doesn't really matter for games. 

 

FYI you're the first person saying i7 is "20% more min fps and 50% more max fps." Everyone else says the difference is basically nil. 

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6

You are looking at single player benchmarks just like most people I've seen on various forums. And I specifically mentioned BF4 multiplayer.

[Jumper118]

Did you try it with a game which you had over 100fps? And you still can't really tell the difference?

no, because i cant run anything at 4k at 100fps and my monitor is 60hz. i get 80fps at 1440P. i have found that unigine valley uses the extra single thread speed at 1080P, but the pcie doesn't make a difference.