Will 32 GB be good enough?

[Campfirecrucifix]

Backstory

Alright so about a month back, I turned my old pc into a minecraft server by installing ubuntu 15.04 and setting all the essentials up (My sql, php, etc...). Right now I am managing a 9-10 people online per day server and only recently I have run into the server crashing and giving my an error of out of memeory. I am using 7 out of 8 GB of the DDR 2(It's an old machine) memory that I have and since it's still not enough I was wondering....

 

 

Should I get 32GB upgrade? is it worth it?

 

RIght now I am trying to spend as little money as possible on upgrades until I can get some donations on the server, but I found someone on ebay that is selling 16x2 GB of rams for only $37. http://www.ebay.com/itm/32GB-16x2GB-MEMORY-PC2-5300-667MHz-ECC-FULLY-BUFFERED-DDR2-240-PIN-/171623602953

 

It is a little slower then the stock 800MHZ ram that I have right now and I want to know will that really degrade my performance?

 

 

OH shit, I'm stupid I didn't notice it was 16x2GB I saw it the other way around. 

 

I guess the question now is should I buy 32gb cards. I only have 2 slots.

 

Also not sure why I am running out of memory. I have a lot of plugins but it can't just be that.

 

[Swndlr]

for 37$

DO IT M8

[niofalpha]

I assume it would be more than enough for minecraft.

 

How are you even running out of memory on 8GB? Iv'e been on a 40~ Person modded server with lots of explosions on a 4GB server fine...

 

Also, does your MB have enough room for all 16 of those ram sticks?

[Enderman]

it should not be using anywhere near that much with only 10 people on

you might have a memory leak

 

you should try running the server on a windows machine using windows 7 or 8.1 along with the latest version of java 64 bit

[RevoltTrain]

For that price tag, I'd do it in a heartbeat

[Campfirecrucifix]

OH shit, I'm stupid I didn't notice it was 16x2GB I saw it the other way around. 

 

I guess the question now is should I buy 32gb cards. I only have 2 slots.

 

Also not sure why I am running out of memory. I have a lot of plugins but it can't just be that.

[squirrl]

OH shit, I'm stupid I didn't notice it was 16x2GB I saw it the other way around. 

 

I guess the question now is should I buy 32gb cards. I only have 2 slots.

 

Also not sure why I am running out of memory. I have a lot of plugins but it can't just be that.

Does your motherboard even support that amount of memory per slot? High capactity DDR2 is fairly rare/expensive, and even having a motherboard that supports 8GB ram over 2 slots is pretty good for an old PC. 

My guess is that you're going to be stuck finding that amount of memory, since any DIMM past 4GB is likely going into server territory and going to be EEC (and that's what a quick google showed anyway)

Also the memory you looked at is ECC. That is also unlikely to work with a standard desktop setup. 

 

This is 2x16GB: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32GB-2x16GB-RAM-for-Dell-PowerEdge-R520-T320-T420-R720-ECC-Registered-DDR3-RDIMM-/391025324616?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item5b0aecf248

You can see that it sold for over $400 inc shipping.

[Campfirecrucifix]

Does your motherboard even support that amount of memory per slot? High capactity DDR2 is fairly rare/expensive, and even having a motherboard that supports 8GB ram over 2 slots is pretty good for an old PC. 

My guess is that you're going to be stuck finding that amount of memory, since any DIMM past 4GB is likely going into server territory and going to be EEC (and that's what a quick google showed anyway)

Also the memory you looked at is ECC. That is also unlikely to work with a standard desktop setup. 

 

This is 2x16GB: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32GB-2x16GB-RAM-for-Dell-PowerEdge-R520-T320-T420-R720-ECC-Registered-DDR3-RDIMM-/391025324616?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item5b0aecf248

You can see that it sold for over $400 inc shipping.

The MB that I have right now is an ASUS MZN68-AM PLUS

 

Would I need to upgrade? Also if so what is the cheapest ddr2/ddr3 board that supports 32GB ram?

[squirrl]

The MB that I have right now is an ASUS MZN68-AM PLUS

 

Would I need to upgrade? Also if so what is the cheapest ddr2/ddr3 board that supports 32GB ram?

You're probably out of luck if you're looking at upgrading, it's all down to your CPU. ( i see mixed specs for your motherboard - some say it supports AM3 and 4GB ram) If you DO have a socket AM3 CPU then you can possibly find an expensive board that supports 32GB but you're probably just going to find ones that support up to 16GB.

Otherwise you're stuck on DDR2 and you're not going to find support for 32GB unless it's a server board/CPU.

[Campfirecrucifix]

You're probably out of luck if you're looking at upgrading, it's all down to your CPU. ( i see mixed specs for your motherboard - some say it supports AM3 and 4GB ram) If you DO have a socket AM3 CPU then you can possibly find an expensive board that supports 32GB but you're probably just going to find ones that support up to 16GB.

Otherwise you're stuck on DDR2 and you're not going to find support for 32GB unless it's a server board/CPU.

Alright so just hypothetically lets forget about my old build and say that I was going to make a new one. What would be the best build for me. As in what is the best low cost build (supporting 32gb ram and ddr3) and what is the best price to preference build (supporting 32gb ram and ddr3) for a minecraft server?

[squirrl]

Alright so just hypothetically lets forget about my old build and say that I was going to make a new one. What would be the best build for me. As in what is the best low cost build (supporting 32gb ram and ddr3) and what is the best price to preference build (supporting 32gb ram and ddr3) for a minecraft server?

For 32GB RAM alone, you're looking at ~$220 minimum unless you get a good price. All modern motherboards will support at least 8GB per slot, so find the cheapest motherboard you can, and make sure it has 4 of them.

As for CPU, I'm sure a more informed minecraft player will be able to recommend the best choice there. but from what everyone has been saying in the thread, getting 32GB ram is a lot more than you need, and sorting out the problem with memory usage is your first task.

 

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Server/Requirements/Dedicated

From this, you can see that 6GB is fine for 45+ players on linux.

[Campfirecrucifix]

For 32GB RAM alone, you're looking at ~$220 minimum unless you get a good price. All modern motherboards will support at least 8GB per slot, so find the cheapest motherboard you can, and make sure it has 4 of them.

As for CPU, I'm sure a more informed minecraft player will be able to recommend the best choice there. but from what everyone has been saying in the thread, getting 32GB ram is a lot more than you need, and sorting out the problem with memory usage is your first task.

 

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Server/Requirements/Dedicated

From this, you can see that 6GB is fine for 45+ players on linux.

Thank you for the advice and I need 32 gb because I love to fuck around (so to speak) on my server and I have about 55+ plugins so you can see that memory would be quite a big deal. Also I am hoping to expand the server a little more thus trying to future proof the server as much as possible. I also found out after disabling on of my plugins that the dynmapic map plugin was the one taking up a whole bunch of ram.

 

Also would this be a good build?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182253R

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-E3-1270-BX80646E31270V3-Cache/dp/B00D697QRM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1430103618&sr=1-1&keywords=E3-1270V3

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mushkin-32gb-4x8gb-DDR3-pc3-17000-Blackline-memory-kit-994124-/171762443418?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27fdd6e49a

[Campfirecrucifix]

Thank you for the advice and I need 32 gb because I love to fuck around (so to speak) on my server and I have about 55+ plugins so you can see that memory would be quite a big deal. Also I am hoping to expand the server a little more thus trying to future proof the server as much as possible. I also found out after disabling on of my plugins that the dynmapic map plugin was the one taking up a whole bunch of ram.

 

Also would this be a good build?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182253R

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-E3-1270-BX80646E31270V3-Cache/dp/B00D697QRM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1430103618&sr=1-1&keywords=E3-1270V3

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mushkin-32gb-4x8gb-DDR3-pc3-17000-Blackline-memory-kit-994124-/171762443418?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27fdd6e49a

Bump. can anyone confirm this?