What is my PCs bottleneck ?

[Dreckssackblase]

First of all thanks to anybody reading this trying to help.

Now let's get to my problem. I've gotten a new GPU a few months back and i get performance way worse than i expected. I have a R9 290 tri-x OC and i get about 20-120 FPS in Battlefield 4 (settings don't seem to matter at all). So a huge variation in framerate. Even in not so demanding games like CS:GO i get a framerate of 50 - 180 FPS  . Any idea why this is, or how I could find it out ?

Now to my Rig:

 

Windows 8.1

Fx-6100 overclocked to 4Ghz

R9 290 Tri-x OC

Asrock 990fx K1ller motherboard

8GB of 1600Mhz DDR3 memory

Samsung 840 EVO which contains the OS and BF4

Corsair 600 Watt PSU

 

Thanks and have a nice day.    

[Archangel1994]

The CPu hands down is quite a bottleneck

 

I recommend an I5-4440 + MSI H81m-p33 if on a budget, otherwise get the 4690k or 4790k with a Z97 board

[ammarez]

either a problem from the gpu or the cpu is bottle-necking the gpu 

[stconquest]

Quick guess. the 6100.  There might be something else going on though.

 

You can test it.  Lower the Clock on your CPU, see if the minimum FPS's changes.  Try going to 4+ GHz, see if the minimum changes.

[SkimmyMcG]

That CPU is your bottleneck, I'd recommend an i5 for that GPU, as far as I know no AMD CPU's will not bottleneck that card.

[Fate]

Your CPU is a huge bottleneck (it's horrible for a 290). To eliminate (using that term lightly, you cannot really eliminate bottlenecks) your bottleneck, you need at least an i5-4440. Not a single AMD CPU will eliminate it (not even a 9590) in most games. 

[Johntheawesomeguy]

First of all thanks to anybody reading this trying to help.

Now let's get to my problem. I've gotten a new GPU a few months back and i get performance way worse than i expected. I have a R9 290 tri-x OC and i get about 20-120 FPS in Battlefield 4 (settings don't seem to matter at all). So a huge variation in framerate. Even in not so demanding games like CS:GO i get a framerate of 50 - 180 FPS  . Any idea why this is, or how I could find it out ?

Now to my Rig:

 

Windows 8.1

Fx-6100 overclocked to 4Ghz

R9 290 Tri-x OC

Asrock 990fx K1ller motherboard

8GB of 1600Mhz DDR3 memory

Samsung 840 EVO which contains the OS and BF4

Corsair 600 Watt PSU

 

Thanks and have a nice day.    

the cpu 

[Johntheawesomeguy]

Maybe you should upgrade to an 8350 or 8370

[Archangel1994]

Maybe you should upgrade to an 8350 or 8370

They will both bottleneck

[stconquest]

Maybe you should upgrade to an 8350 or 8370

 

That is not a good upgrade.  He would not see any "real" performance improvement.  It would still struggle.

[Dreckssackblase]

either a problem from the gpu or the cpu is bottle-necking the gpu 

It's not the GPU tried it on a friends PC with a i7-47something and it got 100-140 FPS easily.

[ammarez]

It's not the GPU tried it on a friends PC with a i7-47something and it got 100-140 FPS easily.

then it is the cpu  

[stconquest]

It's not the GPU tried it on a friends PC with a i7-47something and it got 100-140 FPS easily.

 

4 GHz 6100 is like a 2 GHz i5 Haswell.

 

Take that with a grain of salt, kinda spouting it out.  :lol:

[Johntheawesomeguy]

That is not a good upgrade.  He would not see any "real" performance improvement.  It would still struggle.

yes he would, its better then any intel cpu in its price range, plus he won't need to upgrade the mobo

[Johntheawesomeguy]

They will both bottleneck

I smell intel fanboy

[Archangel1994]

I smell intel fanboy

Ask @Suika before calling me a fanboy

 

I go what is best at the time and right now AMD has nothing on intel in terms of CPU's.

[stconquest]

I smell intel fanboy

 

I have two machines:  one i5 3750K; the other a Phenom II X6.  One is phenomenally better than the other when pushed.

[Fate]

I smell intel fanboy

K.

Take a look through these links and see for yourself.

 

 

http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/2/

http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-fx-8370e-cpu,3929-7.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8427/amd-fx-8370e-cpu-review-vishera-95w/3

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/285199-harrynowls-ultimate-cpu-showdown-wip/

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/286142-fx-8350-r9-290-psu-requirements/page-3#entry3892901

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/266481-an-issue-with-people-bashing-the-fx-cpus/page-4#entry3620861

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/285927-gaming-performance-between-4300-8350-and-4-threaded-performance-between-amd-intel/

[Johntheawesomeguy]

I have two machines:  one i5 3750K; the other a Phenom II X6.  One is phenomenally better than the other when pushed.

you just compared a low-end AMD cpu against a high end Intel cou of course the 3750K is better

[stconquest]

you just compared a low-end AMD cpu against a high end Intel cou of course the 3750K is better

My 6 core is better than you 6 core =D

[Johntheawesomeguy]

That is not a good upgrade.  He would not see any "real" performance improvement.  It would still struggle.

see for yourself http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2398556/8320-bottleneck-gtx-970.html

[stconquest]

see for yourself http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2398556/8320-bottleneck-gtx-970.html

 

That is not a good upgrade.  He would not see any "real" performance improvement.  It would still struggle similarly to the 6100...

 

...fixed*

[KirbyTech]

First of all thanks to anybody reading this trying to help.

Now let's get to my problem. I've gotten a new GPU a few months back and i get performance way worse than i expected. I have a R9 290 tri-x OC and i get about 20-120 FPS in Battlefield 4 (settings don't seem to matter at all). So a huge variation in framerate. Even in not so demanding games like CS:GO i get a framerate of 50 - 180 FPS  . Any idea why this is, or how I could find it out ?

Now to my Rig:

 

Windows 8.1

Fx-6100 overclocked to 4Ghz

R9 290 Tri-x OC

Asrock 990fx K1ller motherboard

8GB of 1600Mhz DDR3 memory

Samsung 840 EVO which contains the OS and BF4

Corsair 600 Watt PSU

 

Thanks and have a nice day.    

For gaming it would be your CPU, I would look into going to a i5 as they are the best currently for gaming at a reasonable price.

[Johntheawesomeguy]

For gaming it would be your CPU, I would look into going to a i5 as they are the best currently for gaming at a reasonable price.

"reasonable" why would he want to spend $400 (at least) on an i5 and a new MOBO, when he can get an FX-8350 or FX-8370, for half the price, it would get rid of the bottleneck for much cheaper and he only really needs it for gaming

[KirbyTech]

"reasonable" why would he want to spend $400 (at least) on an i5 and a new MOBO, when he can get an FX-8350 or FX-8370, for half the price, it would get rid of the bottleneck for much cheaper and he only really needs it for gaming

AMD does not ave competitive offerings anymore other than for budget builds. Intel i5s are the best right now for gaming so since he did not state a budget I suggested the best for gaming.