Thoughts on 4K/TV Upgrade?

[ChicagoRAW]

So I'm looking to upgrade my TV. But I'm having a hard time deciding if I should go 4K or not.

 

My main issue is that I want a true upgrade (Currently have a 55 Inch Samsung). So I don't know If it would be better to go to 4K or to 60 inch 1080p.

 

First, what does the refresh rate really mean on 4k TVs? I remeber reading that 4k can only be viewed at 30 hertz or fps. Is this still true? Will watching 4K content lock the refresh rate at 30hz?

 

Second, I've seen on the back of 4K TVs that there's like on hdmi slot labbeled on it 'recommended for 4k" (or close to that), so will this be the only port that can do 4K and/or 4K upscalling? For example, if I have my cable on that hdmi, and my ps4/pc on another, will it only upscale to 4k on just the recommended hdmi port?

 

Third, how good is 4k upscalling? Would I be able to tell the difference between same content 1080p vs 1080p upscalling. I tried to research this, but haven't found recent definitve answers.

 

Fourth, people with 4K tvs, how do you like them? Was it worth paying the extra for what you're getting out of it?

 

I want to prefence this by saying I know that 4K content is almost none existant. My goal is to upgrade my TV. And I want to know if a 4K tv will deliver a better all around picture with 1080p vs a regular 1080p tv. Or should I go for a 1080p with a great display.

 

So my second part is, if 4K isn't that great with things like refresh rate, 1080p upscalling etc, what is the best 1080p tv screen or brand? I want an amazing looking picture.

 

Thanks for replies.

[Krytopsy]

I didn't jump on 4K yet so it means you shouldn't except if you're more rich then me.

[79wjd]

HDMI 1.4 supports 4k @ 30fps MAX. HDMI 2.0 changes that as does Display Port 1.2. 

 

for a tv, I'd still stick with 1080p for the time being as very little actually supports 4k and upscaling is just a waste of time. For gaming on the other hand....I'd love a nice 4k monitor :unsure: Just stick with your current display until 4k becomes more mainstream. 

[thekeemo]

im pretty sure your only stuck with 30Hz if you use HDMI (one) also there isnt enough 4k content yet

[Enderman]

im pretty sure your only stuck with 30Hz if you use HDMI

No, HDMI can do 4k @ 60Hz if your transmitter and receiver are 2.0 compatible.

[Krytopsy]

Ok I will be more serious, way more GPU power needed to handle this resolution, no TV cable provider display 4K, only few movies out there have 4K-upscaled from 1080p blu-ray movies. For photos ? Yes but for the rest...meh

[thekeemo]

No, HDMI can do 4k @ 60Hz if your transmitter and receiver are 2.0 compatible.

I mean HDMI 1

[Aniallation]

@ChicagoRAW

 

1. 4K TV's are mostly 30Hz, so they can display a maximum of 30 still images per second. Most content viewed though is around 24-30 FPS so not a big deal unlike gaming.

2. The "recommended for 4K input" I would use for true 4K output, like from a PC. For 1080p output that's being upscaled probably any input will do.

3. There will be a difference upscaling from 1080p but nothing huge, obviously nowhere near as good as true 4K.

[Aniallation]

No, HDMI can do 4k @ 60Hz if your transmitter and receiver are 2.0 compatible.

But the panel on the TV will likely only do 30Hz at 4K, even if the ports are 2.0 compatible. 

[Krytopsy]

Even you had 2 x GTX 780, it wouldn't make difference to have a 30 or 60 Hz 4K TV  except in old games

[Aniallation]

Ok I will be more serious, way more GPU power needed to handle this resolution, no TV cable provider display 4K, only few movies out there have 4K-upscaled from 1080p blu-ray movies. For photos ? Yes but for the rest...meh

My friend has a 4K TV and gaming on it is a big difference from 1080p to me, because unlike many people I don't mind gaming at 30Hz

[Sauron]

I say wait for 4k movies to start coming out, then prices will drop and you'll get a new 4k tv for cheap

[Krytopsy]

Just buy a the nicest 1080p HDTV you can get and with the money you saved, get yourself two GTX 970 or two GTX 980 and put DSR on (4K upscaling in real time gaming) it's what I did.

[Enderman]

But the panel on the TV will likely only do 30Hz at 4K, even if the ports are 2.0 compatible. 

They don't put HDMI 2.0 ports on a tv with a 30Hz panel.

[genkifd]

wouldnt be buying any 4ktv or bluray player, receiver etc until they are certified HDCP 2.2 compatible as this is the copy protection.  

[Sauron]

Even you had 2 x GTX 780, it wouldn't make difference to have a 30 or 60 Hz 4K TV  except in old games

 

I'm glad to be able to say you're wrong more detail on that in a future "poor man's 4k" post

[Krytopsy]

It makes a really good difference on visuals (not as 4K for sure, kind of HD-upscaling a DVD, the same way of so but not the quality) and since we have 4 Gb VRAM mainstream now, there is more VRAM available on graphic cards to cache higher resolution textures.

[ChicagoRAW]

So what would you guys say is the best manufacturer in terms of best image/screen quaility for tvs?

 

I've read Panasonic is really good.

[Aniallation]

They don't put HDMI 2.0 ports on a tv with a 30Hz panel.

I'm sure at least one company will, just so that they can brag about having the "all-new HDMI 2.0 interface" or some BS like that

[Krytopsy]

What !? You're not a gamer ?!? Have you ever heard of input lag ?! Get a Sony one and make sure his input lag is below 20ms.

[shadowblitz3]

4K Tvs costs as much as a car here

[Jimbillroo Digital]

4K TVs look amazing but it is hard to find content to display on them that is in 4K.

[RogueCow]

4K TVs look amazing but it is hard to find content to display on them that is in 4K

 

Holy Dead Thread Revival Batman lol

 

OP feel free to post up if you are still in decision mode

[Jimbillroo Digital]

Holy Dead Thread Revival Batman lol

 

OP feel free to post up if you are still in decision mode

 

Thanks. Didn't realize the last post in the thread was 3 months old. Oops

[RogueCow]

Thanks. Didn't realize the last post in the thread was 3 months old. Oops

NP, I am looking in the HT section and like 20 of these threads were started and finished months ago and all of them have posts from you from like today lmao