Dell Commercial PCs to Preinstall NeoKylin in China

[snowComet]

Dell today announced a cooperative agreement with China Standard Software Co., Ltd. (CS2C), planning to preinstall NeoKylin operating system in its commercial PCs like Latitude commercial notebooks, OptiPlex commercial desktops, Precision workstations, and Vostro series of products. Dell claimed it is aim to meet diversified demand of Chinese customers in operating systems.

For those who doesn't know what NeoKylin is, it is a FreeBSD based desktop OS, developed by China Standard Software and the National University of Defense Technology, and it is used for national defense and all sectors of the country’s economy. For more about NeoKylin, you can read the following article:

http://www.freebsdnews.net/2011/01/04/neokylin-chinas-domestic-freebsd-based-desktop/

http://technews.tmcnet.com/news/2014/08/01/7951277.htm

[Jade]

Windows will still be an option anyway. Cool to see more of FreeBSD, though.

[flibberdipper]

They're probably just scared of us spying on them.

[YellowDragon]

Ah so this is why China is declaring Microsoft a monopoly in China, the  Chinese government is just all  butthurt that they cant spy on anyone since no  one  wanted their shit operating system.

[DaRk0]

They're probably just scared of us spying on them.

 

Preventing international espionage is a defense strategy of every sovereign state, not an act of fear. Of all countries, USA, China and Russia are the ones that don't have the reason to be scared of anyone.

[Lord_Kitty]

Ah so this is why China is declaring Microsoft a monopoly in China, the Chinese government is just all butthurt that they cant spy on anyone since no one wanted their shit operating system.

Maybe, just maybe, they are protecting themselves and their country against the NSA? All the NSA spying has already caused something like that, when Brazil cancelled their multi billion dollar contact with Boeing.

Ultimately, it is the US economy that is losing in this.

Next time, use your brain before posting shit like that.

[Victorious Secret]

Maybe, just maybe, they are protecting themselves and their country against the NSA? All the NSA spying has already caused something like that, when Brazil cancelled their multi billion dollar contact with Boeing.

Ultimately, it is the US economy that is losing in this.

Next time, use your brain before posting shit like that.

 

Do you really think the NSA is the only US organization that engages in this? Do you think the US is the ONLY country that does this? Use YOUR brain. 

 

The NSA is just tip of the spear. 

[Me1z]

Do you really think the NSA is the only US organization that engages in this? Do you think the US is the ONLY country that does this? Use YOUR brain. 

 

The NSA is just tip of the spear. 

 

They may just be the tip of the spear but the NSA isn't just sitting and watching like everyone else. Think about it this way, if Poland were to start spying on other countries, no one would care. When the US starts looking heavily into your governments political affairs and hoarding that information, that's pretty threatening. Unfortunately the US has a lot of power behind them, yet lack the brains to not use it. It's honestly in every country's best interest to stay as far off the US's radar as possible, our government is known for overstepping its boundaries whenever and wherever possible.

[Misanthrope]

Not sure why this is so shocking Dell has been offering Ubuntu systems for years:

 

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd

[YellowDragon]

Maybe, just maybe, they are protecting themselves and their country against the NSA? All the NSA spying has already caused something like that, when Brazil cancelled their multi billion dollar contact with Boeing.

Ultimately, it is the US economy that is losing in this.

Next time, use your brain before posting shit like that.

 

Nice go straight to accusatory.

This is my area of expertise, I'm a software developer, I can tell you right now that In the government's current capacity that it would be  close to impossible for them to produce an OS with widespread adoption.  I'm stating the obvious, Singapore tried to do the same thing  back in 2009 with  creating their own OS environment....it still has not seen the light of day. The fact of the matter is all governments are grossly inefficient. I have worked with government contractors before projects are measured in year spans not weeks or months.

 

So riddle me this, how are you going to get hardware manufactures to provide certification of their products on your OS?

How will you solve communication with other operating system environments?

Can you reliably and quickly provide software support and system patches.

 

That's right they can't they would have  to build all the infrastructure to  help support the  OS so it does see widespread adoption.

 

It's not a  case of build it and  they will  come....things don't work that way.

 

 

Honestly I think that the NSA can look at whatever they want. I don't care one bit it seems that the vox populi are now coming to terms with the fact that nothing on the internet is private and nothing on the internet can be deleted.......I knew this back in the early 90's and so  did every other person using the internet during that time period. You would be labeled a fool to think the government wasn't monitoring the connections in some  way shape or form. In all honestly they  are collecting more data then they can reliably  process..... so tell me how do you go about parsing data on  a  scale this magnitude? That's  right you would not be able to as  you are also trying  to collect more as your are trying to  process. You are literally looking for a needle in a haystack. It's all  metadata metrics  and that's all they can look at on  a scale of  this size,  sure you can flag individuals but do you really think your life is  interesting enough for them to warrant spying on you? Are you a high ranking dignitary? One of  the top  scientists or engineers in the world? A politician?  if  your answer is no to  any  of these questions then most likely you have nothing to worry about.........Not to mention  people already make  it easy by posting their entire lives on  facebook.

 

 

So  yes  I  am using my  brain and it could care less of your  "Atrocities of the NSA  against privacy" viewpoint.

[Lord_Kitty]

Do you really think the NSA is the only US organization that engages in this? Do you think the US is the ONLY country that does this? Use YOUR brain. 

 

The NSA is just tip of the spear. 

 

OK, so what? What does it change to the fact that China does not want to risk giving its secrets to the US? A lot of countries do that, so what? How many of these countries produces an OS used worldwide that may (or may not) have backdoors into it?

 

 

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Isn't NeoKylin already in use? It doesn't really matter if the Chinese people use it or not. As long as their facilities are not using Windows.

 

And there so much wrong to it the rest of what you wrote. Yes, it does not matter much (at least, right now) if they are collecting data on individuals. Europe almost cancelled the Free Trade agreement because of that. Its their ability to spy on other countries affairs, hence the whole point of moving away from Windows.

[qwertywarrior]

odd why would they use NeoKylin instead of kylin linux or ubuntu kylin

its just a university

[Mooshi]

OS developed by the Chinese to put an American branded system. That doesn't seem suspicious in the slightest.