PC underperforming

[Drunkbear2025]

This is my first custom build, its not amazing or anything but from what i saw it should be a decent gaming pc, i have an amd athlon 750k at 3.6 and gtx 1060 3gb oc, 8gb of RAM, and running Windows 10. While playing battlefield 1 I get around 15 to 20 fps i know my cpu isnt great but i think i should be getting higher fps than that if anyone could help me i'd really appreciate it very much

[tracker1]

What are your resolution/quality settings... should probably set the resolution to 720p, and the quality to medium/high.  If you're trying something like 1080p or 1440p it will run slower.  Also, video cards under 4gb will not be able to do high detail in some games as the textures will be too big in memory.  As to Win10, if you're running 3rd party antivirus, unload it and go back to built in windows defender, or at least disable it while gaming.  Disable all the telemetry options, and also disable any 3rd party apps.  While 8GB of ram should be plenty, it's easy for background applications you don't really need to get installed and sit there taking up space.

 

The 750k isn't actually that great... unfortunately you're in for cpu + mb + ram when you are ready to upgrade.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-750K/m433194vs1548

I wouldn't suggest lower than a Ryzen 2400g, generally speaking... you are probably CPU bottlenecked, see above on suggested quality settings.  If you keep an eye out on ebay, you may be able to get a 4000+ i5 or i7 relatively cheap, possibly with a motherboard, and ddr3 memory that you can upgrade to.  The userbenchmark site I referenced isn't the whole story, but does give you a good comparison baseline.

If you aren't using an SSD, you'll be amazed at the difference in upgrading to one for your primary drive.  That would be my second upgrade from where you are, if you aren't already using one for your main drive(s).

 

Third would be to bring the RAM up above 16GB, it's actually going to be more useful in browsing than gaming as if you have many tabs open, resource usage can build up relatively quickly.

 

Fourth would be the Video Card... I'd hold on to what you have with is a decent low-mid range card.  The landscape will probably change a lot in the next year here.

 

In any case, what you have should work well enough.  And you don't need to break the bank, just be a bit frugal and discerning in an upgrade strategy over time. You don't have to do it all at once either.  Also, you're often better going a generation or two back for the top of the line, used than current low-mid options.    My current system is nearly 6yo, thinking of upgrading early-mid next year, last upgrades about 2yr ago. 

[Drunkbear2025]

12 minutes ago, tracker1 said:

What are your resolution/quality settings... should probably set the resolution to 720p, and the quality to medium/high.  If you're trying something like 1080p or 1440p it will run slower.  Also, video cards under 4gb will not be able to do high detail in some games as the textures will be too big in memory.  As to Win10, if you're running 3rd party antivirus, unload it and go back to built in windows defender, or at least disable it while gaming.  Disable all the telemetry options, and also disable any 3rd party apps.  While 8GB of ram should be plenty, it's easy for background applications you don't really need to get installed and sit there taking up space.

 

The 750k isn't actually that great... unfortunately you're in for cpu + mb + ram when you are ready to upgrade.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-750K/m433194vs1548

I wouldn't suggest lower than a Ryzen 2400g, generally speaking... you are probably CPU bottlenecked, see above on suggested quality settings.  If you keep an eye out on ebay, you may be able to get a 4000+ i5 or i7 relatively cheap, possibly with a motherboard, and ddr3 memory that you can upgrade to.  The userbenchmark site I referenced isn't the whole story, but does give you a good comparison baseline.

If you aren't using an SSD, you'll be amazed at the difference in upgrading to one for your primary drive.  That would be my second upgrade from where you are, if you aren't already using one for your main drive(s).

 

Third would be to bring the RAM up above 16GB, it's actually going to be more useful in browsing than gaming as if you have many tabs open, resource usage can build up relatively quickly.

 

Fourth would be the Video Card... I'd hold on to what you have with is a decent low-mid range card.  The landscape will probably change a lot in the next year here.

 

In any case, what you have should work well enough.  And you don't need to break the bank, just be a bit frugal and discerning in an upgrade strategy over time. You don't have to do it all at once either.  Also, you're often better going a generation or two back for the top of the line, used than current low-mid options.    My current system is nearly 6yo, thinking of upgrading early-mid next year, last upgrades about 2yr ago. 

Thanks for all the help i really do appreciate that you took the time, hopefully i will be able to upgrade my cpu in a couple of months but whats your opinion, cause idk if i should go for Ryzen or Intel if you could give ur opinion on that id appreciate it as well. Thanks again

[tracker1]

Frankly, they overlap a lot... I would generally suggest Ryzen if you're doing stuff other than gaming... next year is the Ryzen 2 platform release (not to be confused with Ryzen 2000), it's the second generation of their architecture.  Which should improve single core speeds by 1.2-1.5x.  As it stands, they're quite a bit better for multicore, and stand close to toe to toe on price for single core.  The Ryzen 2600 in particular is nice if you don't plan to overclock.  The 2200-2400g are nice too, but wouldn't use the onboard for longer than you had to (your 1060 is a nicer card than the onboard there).

 

If you want to shell out more cash, then the Ryzen 2700x is really nice, but the i7-8700k or 9700 might be better options if your main concern is gaming, but that's still more cash than I'd spend gaming centric.  I tend to build well rounded... did the following build a few weeks ago for my GF's daughter:

 

https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/PublicWishlistDetail?ID=31395592
 

I tend to sacrifice a little on the CPU and Video card in order to ensure an SSD and a bit more RAM.  I find 1TB SSD works out great and as well as 16GB ram.  I also am fine with the mATX motherboards, as I've not had to fill one in a very long time as multi-gpu has rarely been worth it for me.  The computer itself is dead silent and about as fast as my personal desktop for most things.

[Drunkbear2025]

Just now, Drunkbear2025 said:

Thanks for all the help i really do appreciate that you took the time, hopefully i will be able to upgrade my cpu in a couple of months but whats your opinion, cause idk if i should go for Ryzen or Intel if you could give ur opinion on that id appreciate it as well. Thanks again

Also i was running it at 720 medium and low, i noticed i was getting the same performance not really an improvement over 1080 resolution

 

5 minutes ago, tracker1 said:

Frankly, they overlap a lot... I would generally suggest Ryzen if you're doing stuff other than gaming... next year is the Ryzen 2 platform release (not to be confused with Ryzen 2000), it's the second generation of their architecture.  Which should improve single core speeds by 1.2-1.5x.  As it stands, they're quite a bit better for multicore, and stand close to toe to toe on price for single core.  The Ryzen 2600 in particular is nice if you don't plan to overclock.  The 2200-2400g are nice too, but wouldn't use the onboard for longer than you had to (your 1060 is a nicer card than the onboard there).

 

If you want to shell out more cash, then the Ryzen 2700x is really nice, but the i7-8700k or 9700 might be better options if your main concern is gaming, but that's still more cash than I'd spend gaming centric.  I tend to build well rounded... did the following build a few weeks ago for my GF's daughter:

 

https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/PublicWishlistDetail?ID=31395592
 

I tend to sacrifice a little on the CPU and Video card in order to ensure an SSD and a bit more RAM.  I find 1TB SSD works out great and as well as 16GB ram.  I also am fine with the mATX motherboards, as I've not had to fill one in a very long time as multi-gpu has rarely been worth it for me.  The computer itself is dead silent and about as fast as my personal desktop for most things.

That looks like a pretty nice build, actually i think ill be getting that Ryzen 5 looks pretty good and is about the smae as an i3, i dont know how else to thank you but thank you. You have been very helpful to a noob like me

[Drunkbear2025]

9 minutes ago, Drunkbear2025 said:

Also i was running it at 720 medium and low, i noticed i was getting the same performance not really an improvement over 1080 resolution

 

That looks like a pretty nice build, actually i think ill be getting that Ryzen 5 looks pretty good and is about the smae as an i3, i dont know how else to thank you but thank you. You have been very helpful to a noob like me

Also ive been looking at other Ryzen cpu's and im not sure what would be good as i am on a really low budget ican probably only spend around 80 to 130 dollars on a cpu as i also have to buy the mobo and RAM, what would you recommend