Which one is better/ would you buy?

[David_2716]

Theirs 2 cards that are on my mind and was just wondering which one do you guys think is a better deal and any information about the cards that would make me choose one over the other. The ASRock phantom gaming vega 56 is 340 on sale right now and also has 3 games that come with it which equal 180 dollars in games which I think is a good deal. Then there's this EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti ultra silent gaming that is going to be on sale for 350  and also comes with a game that's 60 dollars. so, from these two which one do you guys think is better. I've been looking to upgrade my pc this holiday and would appreciate any input Thanks. (Also here are the links if anyone is wondering :  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487392   https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814930006&Description=asrock vega 56&cm_re=asrock_vega_56-_-14-930-006-_-Product )

[Firewrath9]

The 1070 ti, vega is hotter and more power hungry. Also not sure about asrock cards while evga is amazing.

[emosun]

i can't say i'd ever purchase another asrock product

[xg32]

if you can sell the games or want the games, the vega 56 ends up alot cheaper.

[anthonyc813]

i had the same dilemma hahaha

one guy brought up a good point- "I didnt even know ASRock made graphics cards." which I true I never heard of one either. 340 is tempting. I was going to pull the trigger but decided on an after market cooler for a few bucks more.

[pstarlord]

I was, literally, in your exact situation about a month ago.  I ended up getting a Vega 56 and I'm loving it.  That being said, after a bunch of research, I wouldn't recommend a Vega founders edition style though.  Their cooling is awful.  Personally, I'd take a non founders edition of most "lower rated" cards over the founders edition of the next level up, based on thermals alone.  I found a screaming deal on a Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 56 for $500.  I see now they are selling for like $630 to $725 though.  Right now you can get the Power Color Red Dragon Vega 56 for about $400.  Amazon has the Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 for about $450.  The Power Color model is a very popular option if you are wanting Vega.  You'll get MUCH better thermals, and get a more stable overclocking experience with it compared to the founders edition.  For what it's worth, a properly overclocked Vega 56 can get you in the ball park of a stock RTX 2070 in performance, according to Gamer's Nexus, who has a few great tutorials on overclocking Vega if you end up going with that.  

 

The other thing to take into consideration is your monitor.  G-Sync or Free Sync are essentials IMO.  If you've got a monitor with one of those features, then get the GPU that matches up with it. If you're planning on purchasing a monitor, you can always save about $200 ish by going Free Sync, then you can put that savings into your GPU.  

 

In the end, you'll have a pretty solid gaming experience with either option.  1070TI is a great card, as is a Vega 56. (just no founders editions) You'll be able to play a vast majority of games out there on highest settings.  I just picked up Shadow of the Tomb Raider (steam sale going on right now by the way) and on highest settings my Vega is averaging around 90 fps, and thermals peaked around 65 C over the course of about an hour of play.  I'm sure a 1070TI could be in a similar ball park.

[anthonyc813]

4 hours ago, pstarlord said:

I was, literally, in your exact situation about a month ago.  I ended up getting a Vega 56 and I'm loving it.  That being said, after a bunch of research, I wouldn't recommend a Vega founders edition style though.  Their cooling is awful.  Personally, I'd take a non founders edition of most "lower rated" cards over the founders edition of the next level up, based on thermals alone.  I found a screaming deal on a Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 56 for $500.  I see now they are selling for like $630 to $725 though.  Right now you can get the Power Color Red Dragon Vega 56 for about $400.  Amazon has the Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 for about $450.  The Power Color model is a very popular option if you are wanting Vega.  You'll get MUCH better thermals, and get a more stable overclocking experience with it compared to the founders edition.  For what it's worth, a properly overclocked Vega 56 can get you in the ball park of a stock RTX 2070 in performance, according to Gamer's Nexus, who has a few great tutorials on overclocking Vega if you end up going with that.  

 

The other thing to take into consideration is your monitor.  G-Sync or Free Sync are essentials IMO.  If you've got a monitor with one of those features, then get the GPU that matches up with it. If you're planning on purchasing a monitor, you can always save about $200 ish by going Free Sync, then you can put that savings into your GPU.  

 

In the end, you'll have a pretty solid gaming experience with either option.  1070TI is a great card, as is a Vega 56. (just no founders editions) You'll be able to play a vast majority of games out there on highest settings.  I just picked up Shadow of the Tomb Raider (steam sale going on right now by the way) and on highest settings my Vega is averaging around 90 fps, and thermals peaked around 65 C over the course of about an hour of play.  I'm sure a 1070TI could be in a similar ball park.

thank you for sharing your exp. a bunch of us are in this situation this week lol. 339 with free shipping is hard to pass up but that blower style.. Red Dragon would be a no brainer IF the power connectors were to the right, not next to the Red Dragon logo!!!

[pstarlord]

4 hours ago, anthonyc813 said:

thank you for sharing your exp. a bunch of us are in this situation this week lol. 339 with free shipping is hard to pass up but that blower style.. Red Dragon would be a no brainer IF the power connectors were to the right, not next to the Red Dragon logo!!!

Oh god, you're right!  WHY would they put them there?!?!?! haha.  

[anthonyc813]

2 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

Oh god, you're right!  WHY would they put them there?!?!?! haha.  

for realz!! only reason I did not jump on the Red Dragon! BestBuy has the XFX Vega 56 for 399 now with 3 free games. only problem is sales tax... ugh. Newegg is tax free cause I live in NY

[pstarlord]

8 minutes ago, anthonyc813 said:

for realz!! only reason I did not jump on the Red Dragon! BestBuy has the XFX Vega 56 for 399 now with 3 free games. only problem is sales tax... ugh. Newegg is tax free cause I live in NY

Oh lucky!!!  I live in WA, we get taxed even on online purchases.  Over the last year, I've paid enough in sales tax between the two PC's I've built, and the laptop I bought, I could have saved enough money to get a free Vega 56. haha. 

[anthonyc813]

13 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

Oh lucky!!!  I live in WA, we get taxed even on online purchases.  Over the last year, I've paid enough in sales tax between the two PC's I've built, and the laptop I bought, I could have saved enough money to get a free Vega 56. haha. 

lol then it dont matter where you buy. i dont plan on messing with the vega card right away until I learn more about volting and what not. So im buying one based on looks as I enjoy looking through my windowed panel at the pretty hardware

if I were going to water cool then the sapphire 64 reference would be the clear choice. the MSI air boost looks decent too.

[pstarlord]

8 minutes ago, anthonyc813 said:

lol then it dont matter where you buy. i dont plan on messing with the vega card right away until I learn more about volting and what not. So im buying one based on looks as I enjoy looking through my windowed panel at the pretty hardware

if I were going to water cool then the sapphire 64 reference would be the clear choice. the MSI air boost looks decent too.

I can walk you through under volting/ over clocking Vega.  It's not too tricky actually, took me about an hour to dial mine in using some pretty simple tools. 

 

Also, yes, on water cooling.  Future me is going to be so disappointed in current me for not learning how to do hard line water cooling before I bought my graphics card. haha. I'm sure I'll learn how to do that eventually.