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43 minutes ago, P3rf3ctvo1d said:

I mean, based on your recommendation, I should customize a major brand laptop instead of Clevo? I went to HIDevolution to get the same specs (like PCSpecialist) and I get significantly higher price without even mentioning VAT with extra 2k.EUR at least. I stopped customizing once I saw that.

Only customize Clevo P750, P775 and P870 via HID/Obsidian/any other reseller that provides delid. The rest you can buy wherever you want

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I need assistance on figuring out if I should buy this build or to wait a couple of months for the price drop.

I was also thinking of excluding VAT by using my family's company VAT number to exempt this laptop from taxation.

I personally think it is overpriced and I'm thinking to wait, despite being able to buy it with no problems.

 

Here are the specs:

  1. Chassis & Display Vortex Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) + G-Sync
  2. Processor (CPU) Intelregistered Coretm i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
  3. Memory (RAM) 64GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (4 x 16GB)
  4. Graphics Card 2 x NVIDIAregistered GeForceregistered GTX 1080 - 8.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DX 12.1
  5. 1st Hard Disk NOT REQUIRED
  6. 1st M.2 SSD Drive 1TB SAMSUNG 970 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2700MB/W)
  7. 2nd M.2 SSD Drive 1TB SAMSUNG 970 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2700MB/W)
  8. External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 6x Slim USB 2.0 External Blu-Ray Writer
  9. Memory Card Reader Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
  10. AC Adaptor 2 x Vortex Series 330W AC Adaptor (For GTX 1080)
  11. Battery Vortex Elite 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,800 mAh/89.21WH)
  12. Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
  13. Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
  14. Sound Card Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
  15. Bluetooth & Wireless GIGABIT LAN & KILLERtm WIRELESS-AC 1550 M.2 GAMING 802.11AC + BLUETOOTH 5.0
  16. USB/Thunderbolt Options 5 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 3.1 PORT AS STANDARD
  17. Keyboard Language VORTEX SERIES BACKLIT USA KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
  18. Operating System Genuine Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
  19. Operating System Language United Kingdom - English Language
  20. Windows Recovery Media Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
  21. Office Software Microsoftregistered Office Professional 2019 (1 Digital License)
  22. Anti-Virus BullGuardtm Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
  23. Browser Google Chrometm
  24. Carry Case Wenger/Swissgear iBex 17" Backpack
  25. Laptop Cooling Stands CoolerMaster NotePal L2 Laptop Cooler, upto 17.3 inch
  26. Notebook Mouse INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
  27. Webcam Logitechregistered HD Webcam C930e - 1080p recording, supports H.264
  28. Printer HP ENVY 5030 WIRELESS ALL-IN-ONE PRINTER
  29. Warranty 3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
  30. Dead Pixel Guarantee 1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
  31. Delivery 2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO [EXPUNGED]
  32. Build Time FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
  33. Promotional Item FREE Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 & More w/ select Intel CPUs!
I am buying from pcspecialist.co.uk.
 
Cost: 
€5.317,50 Excl. Vat.
 
€6.381,00
inc VAT and Delivery.
 
Cost includes all accessories.
 
I would love to hear your input!
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9900k in a laptop is bullshit. A laptop of this thickness will not be able to dissipate its heat and will drop a lot of frequency. the locked 8700 is as far as being reasonable goes.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

9900k in a laptop is bullshit. A laptop of this thickness will not be able to dissipate its heat and will drop a lot of frequency. the locked 8700 is as far as being reasonable goes.

What if I use a cooling pad? Also, what should I get instead and where?

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9 minutes ago, P3rf3ctvo1d said:

What if I use a cooling pad? Also, what should I get instead and where?

forget cooling pad, even the 8700k requires a full watercooler to get the cooling done. There's only so much the small heatsinks can do even with as much airflow as you can push. That's why the 8700 is as good as a processor I'd put in that chassis.

 

Other options will be 1080 SLI and 8750H or 8850H laptops, even 8950HK ones with watercooling. Acer Predator 21X, Asus GX800 etc.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

forget cooling pad, even the 8700k requires a full watercooler to get the cooling done. There's only so much the small heatsinks can do even with as much airflow as you can push. That's why the 8700 is as good as a processor I'd put in that chassis.

 

Other options will be 1080 SLI and 8750H or 8850H laptops, even 8950HK ones with watercooling. Acer Predator 21X, Asus GX800 etc.

Ok, thanks! Is it possible to get 8950 HK without watercooling? Is there something similar? Also, which custom laptop would you recommend?

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If you really wanted to get P775 or P870, ONLY buy from resellers like HIDevolution and ObsidianPC since they provide delid+LM and other modding (Obsidian has heatsink lapping) which will not throttle the CPU

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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1 hour ago, GeneXiS_X said:

If you really wanted to get P775 or P870, ONLY buy from resellers like HIDevolution and ObsidianPC since they provide delid+LM and other modding (Obsidian has heatsink lapping) which will not throttle the CPU

Thanks, but I cannot buy from USA since it guarantees an import tax of 19% which is huge. I'm in Europe, Cyprus. 

Thank you for the recommendation.

EDIT: Based on the HIDevolution recommendation, I, if I correctly understand you, should get a pre-built laptop like MSI, ASUS and etc?

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20 minutes ago, P3rf3ctvo1d said:

EDIT: Based on the HIDevolution recommendation, I, if I correctly understand you, should get a pre-built laptop like MSI, ASUS and etc?

Sorry but what do you mean?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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1 minute ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Sorry but what do you mean?

I mean, based on your recommendation, I should customize a major brand laptop instead of Clevo? I went to HIDevolution to get the same specs (like PCSpecialist) and I get significantly higher price without even mentioning VAT with extra 2k.EUR at least. I stopped customizing once I saw that.

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What will the laptop be used for?
What are the 3x important key aspects about the laptop?

How long do you plan own it for?

Why a laptop and not a desktop?

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6 minutes ago, Vash. said:

What will the laptop be used for?
What are the 3x important key aspects about the laptop?

How long do you plan own it for?

Why a laptop and not a desktop?

Most important aspects: Graphics card (at least GTX 1080 and would love SLI), CPU (high-end), M.2 SSD (Samsung PRO (at least 1 TB)) and at least 32 GB RAM (preferrably 64 GB).

I plan to own until it becomes obsolete to use for gaming (long-term investment basically).

A laptop because I need mobility and not to be plugged into a wall. I like to travel, but not compromise for weaker components.

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Most important aspects: Graphics card (at least GTX 1080 and would love SLI), CPU (high-end), M.2 SSD (Samsung PRO) and at least 32 GB RAM (preferrably 64 GB).

I plan to own until it becomes obsolete to use for gaming (long-term investment basically).

A laptop because I need mobility and not to be plugged into a wall. I like to travel, but not compromise for weaker components.

1st, my two cents... Unless its 100% needed, I would avoid buying a laptop for gaming. Small for factor, lots of heat, it's loud, hard ware on components due to gaming, leads to shorter life span and unless your mobile 60-80% of the time you are paying significantly more for a laptop that wont last as long. 

 

Things to consider:
- GTX 1080 is overkill for 1920x1080, let along SLI

- CPU, get a CPU that is more for gaming ratherthen what is just top end. EG, 4 core rather then 8+

- 32gb ran is overkill for gaming 16gb will be fine, it will be a waste of money to get 32 or 64

- 1TB M.2 SSD will be fine. Get an external HHD for extra storage

- Don't waste money on stuff you don't need, like a printer

 

Did you have a budget??

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43 minutes ago, P3rf3ctvo1d said:

I mean, based on your recommendation, I should customize a major brand laptop instead of Clevo? I went to HIDevolution to get the same specs (like PCSpecialist) and I get significantly higher price without even mentioning VAT with extra 2k.EUR at least. I stopped customizing once I saw that.

Only customize Clevo P750, P775 and P870 via HID/Obsidian/any other reseller that provides delid. The rest you can buy wherever you want

Desktop specs:

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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4 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Only customize Clevo P750, P775 and P870 via HID/Obsidian/any other reseller that provides delid. The rest you can buy wherever you want

Thanks! I bought this Clevo laptop from PCSpecialist since I got VAT exemption successfully! Going to wait now ?

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