build own gaming PC

[tathunter]

Hey,

I love gaming but the PC i have at home does not really.(dell xps 8700)

I want to build my own gaming PC. How do I start and what should my budget be?

I love overwatch, Just Cause 4...

Please help me.

Kind regards

Me

[3 Lions]

2 minutes ago, tathunter said:

what should my budget be?

That's for you to decide. 

[tathunter]

thank you but i think that all together is going to cost me a whole load of money i don't have, and i don't really know how to start.

Isn't there like a manual of how to do it?

[3 Lions]

Just now, tathunter said:

thank you but i think that all together is going to cost me a whole load of money i don't have, and i don't really know how to start.

Isn't there like a manual of how to do it?

You've got to save up some money, do you have a job? 

[tathunter]

well I am studying and yes i have a job

[tathunter]

how much would it cost me approximately to build a decent gaming pc?

[3 Lions]

Just now, tathunter said:

well I am studying and yes i have a job

Then save up money by working.

[3 Lions]

Just now, tathunter said:

how much would it cost me approximately to build a decent gaming pc?

Again a solid budget is needed before I can say anything. 

[Fauxknight]

9 minutes ago, tathunter said:

thank you but i think that all together is going to cost me a whole load of money i don't have, and i don't really know how to start.

Isn't there like a manual of how to do it?

 

For PC building the problem is there isn't much of a top end limit, it's pretty much what you spend determines your end performance. How much better do you want the new system to be over your old PC? For say $1k you can make a better system than what you have, but for $2k you can make a much better system. You might try like PCPartPicker to give you an idea of where to start, you can play with your own custom build or look at what others have put together and it will tell you a general price that such a build costs to put together. I see a couple of builds on their front page that look pretty functional at $800-$900, on the other hand some people spend that much on just their GPU (cough...me), but that doesn't mean those less expensive builds aren't still good.

[Fauxknight]

The other thing if you want to save some is to maybe just refresh the system you have. It has a pretty fast processor and too much ram already, maybe a new GPU for only a couple hundred bucks might give you a big performance boost.

[tathunter]

6 minutes ago, Fauxknight said:

The other thing if you want to save some is to maybe just refresh the system you have. It has a pretty fast processor and too much ram already, maybe a new GPU for only a couple hundred bucks might give you a big performance boost.

the problem is, this is the pc for everyone, at home. i want a new one for my student "house"

[tathunter]

17 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Again a solid budget is needed before I can say anything. 

lets say something around 2K

[3 Lions]

Just now, tathunter said:

lets say something around 2K

You need take more time to decide on a budget rather than just thinking of a random number.

[tathunter]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You need take more time to decide on a budget rather than just thinking of a random number.

that's just it, i have no idea of what those things cost...

Can you propose something?

 

[3 Lions]

4 minutes ago, tathunter said:

that's just it, i have no idea of what those things cost...

Can you propose something?

 

Just take your time, don't rush. It's no good saying the budget for the PC 2K and then you realize you don't have 2K or if you spend 2K you know you are going to be broke with no money at the end of it. 

[Fauxknight]

29 minutes ago, tathunter said:

Can you propose something?

 

Pretty sure I named where to look to find some example builds. You can also just price the parts out yourself. You need:

 

CPU

Motherboard (one with the right socket for the CPU)

Case (one the motherboard fits in)

RAM (within the motherboard's specs/limitations)

GPU (though sometimes not, would recommend for gaming system though)

HDD or SSD (or combination of both)

CPU Cooling (The CPU might come with a cooler)

Case Cooling (the case might come with enough, or it might not)

Power Supply (big enough to handle your needs)

 

That covers the actual PC itself, remember on a from scratch system you still need peripherals, usually keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers (or just a headset with a mic).

[tathunter]

Intel Core i7 7800X 6C/12T (4.5GHz), Corsair H115i extreme performance liquid cooler (280mm radiator), Asus Prime X299-A, Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4X4GB 3000MHz DDR4), MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8G (2.113GHz core & 9.104GHz memory), 1 Samsung 960 Evo 250GB NVME M.2, 1 Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 1 Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD, 1 WD Red 1TB mechanical drive, Corsair RM750X 80+ Gold fully modular PSU, Corsair Obsidian 750D full tower case, Logitech M310 mouse, Logitech K520 keyboard, Asus VN247HA (1920x1080 60Hz 16:9), Windows 10 Home 64 bit. 

if i take all this, it would cost me approximately

2555 euros, so maybe that's just the best choice

[Fauxknight]

I can example what I just built two days ago:

 

CPU - AMD 2700x - $280 ($320-$40sale)

Mobo - Asus Rog B450-F - $85 ($130-$15sale-$30combo)

Case - Phanteks 350X - $59 ($69-$10sale)

RAM - 8Gb Corsair 3000 cl15 - $135

GPU - EVGA 2080 XC - $800

SSD - Samsung 500Gb - $75 ($85-$10combo)

CPU cooling - Wraith Prism - Free with CPU

Case Cooling - 3 fans, 2 in/1 out - $20 for two and one was free with case

Power Supply - EVGA 750 gold rated - $79

Extra - Sata to 2x 5v 3pin addressable RGB out - $10 (not really needed, but I wanted to hook up the built in case lights)

 

 

Peripherals:

Headset - Logitech G533 - $79 on sale

Monitor1 - 28" 4k - $250 on sale

Monitor2, Keyboard, and Mouse - All reused from old sytem - free

 

 

So overall looks like $1872 for a pretty high end system. I did overspend on the GPU, I could have easily gotten like a 1070 and shaved $400 off and still had a pretty functional system...though the 1070 would have a little more trouble running 5k worth of output like I'm using. 

[tathunter]

1 minute ago, Fauxknight said:

I can example what I just built two days ago:

 

CPU - AMD 2700x - $280 ($320-$40sale)

Mobo - Asus Rog B450-F - $85 ($130-$15sale-$30combo)

Case - Phanteks 350X - $59 ($69-$10sale)

RAM - 8Gb Corsair 3000 cl15 - $135

GPU - EVGA 2080 XC - $800

SSD - Samsung 500Gb - $75 ($85-$10combo)

CPU cooling - Wraith Prism - Free with CPU

Case Cooling - 3 fans, 2 in/1 out - $20 for two and one was free with case

Power Supply - EVGA 750 gold rated - $79

Extra - Sata to 2x 5v 3pin addressable RGB out - $10 (not really needed, but I wanted to hook up the built in case lights)

 

 

Peripherals:

Headset - Logitech G533 - $79 on sale

Monitor1 - 28" 4k - $250 on sale

Monitor2, Keyboard, and Mouse - All reused from old sytem - free

 

 

So overall looks like $1872 for a pretty high end system. I did overspend on the GPU, I could have easily gotten like a 1070 and shaved $400 off and still had a pretty functional system...though the 1070 would have a little more trouble running 5k worth of output like I'm using. 

someone else gave me this:

Intel Core i7 7800X 6C/12T (4.5GHz), Corsair H115i extreme performance liquid cooler (280mm radiator), Asus Prime X299-A, Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4X4GB 3000MHz DDR4), MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8G (2.113GHz core & 9.104GHz memory), 1 Samsung 960 Evo 250GB NVME M.2, 1 Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 1 Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD, 1 WD Red 1TB mechanical drive, Corsair RM750X 80+ Gold fully modular PSU, Corsair Obsidian 750D full tower case, Logitech M310 mouse, Logitech K520 keyboard, Asus VN247HA (1920x1080 60Hz 16:9), Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

this costs a lot more tho, what games can you run?

 

[Fauxknight]

5 minutes ago, tathunter said:

Intel Core i7 7800X 6C/12T (4.5GHz), Corsair H115i extreme performance liquid cooler (280mm radiator), Asus Prime X299-A, Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4X4GB 3000MHz DDR4), MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8G (2.113GHz core & 9.104GHz memory), 1 Samsung 960 Evo 250GB NVME M.2, 1 Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 1 Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD, 1 WD Red 1TB mechanical drive, Corsair RM750X 80+ Gold fully modular PSU, Corsair Obsidian 750D full tower case, Logitech M310 mouse, Logitech K520 keyboard, Asus VN247HA (1920x1080 60Hz 16:9), Windows 10 Home 64 bit. 

if i take all this, it would cost me approximately

2555 euros, so maybe that's just the best choice

 

So that's a pretty good system, but:

 

1. It has 3 SSDs and 1 HDD, that's some wacky storage. Usually 1 SSD for booting  and 1 HDD for storage is all you need. Not to mention the one is a M2 which usually costs a little more. 1x2.5" SSD at 128GB is more than enough to boot your system off of, maybe go to 250GB or 500GB to also run some games off it. After that a 1 or 2 TB HDD is usually added for storage, which is the one part they got right here (though 2TB are really cheap now, not sure why they went with 1TB).

 

2. Full tower cases are huge and cost more, mid towers are usually enough but...

 

3. It has a liquid cooler on the CPU, but then went with just an ok GPU. Usually you would got with a better GPU before getting enough cooling to overclock your CPU.

[tathunter]

2 minutes ago, Fauxknight said:

 

So that's a pretty good system, but:

 

1. It has 3 SSDs and 1 HDD, that's some wacky storage. Usually 1 SSD for booting  and 1 HDD for storage is all you need. Not to mention the one is a M2 which usually costs a little more. 1x2.5" SSD at 128GB is more than enough to boot your system off of, maybe go to 250GB or 500GB to also run some games off it. After that a 1 or 2 TB HDD is usually added for storage, which is the one part they got right here (though 2TB are really cheap now, not sure why they went with 1TB).

 

2. Full tower cases are huge and cost more, mid towers are usually enough but...

 

3. It has a liquid cooler on the CPU, but then went with just an ok GPU. Usually you would got with a better GPU before getting enough cooling to overclock your CPU.

you seem to know a lot more about it then me, currently, i live with my parents so all my income is spared, can you please add and modify the things i send you to what you would do yourself as i don't completely understand what you mean, sorry for not knowing

[Fauxknight]

11 minutes ago, tathunter said:

Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

this costs a lot more tho, what games can you run?

 

 

This is actually something I didn't need, and it can be fairly pricey. I used my old Win7 key to activate my Win10. You don't actually need a Win10 license from what I understand, just have to put up with watermarks.

 

My system should be able to pretty much run anything and get good frame rates at 4k. 

[tathunter]

2 minutes ago, Fauxknight said:

 

This is actually something I didn't need, and it can be fairly pricey. I used my old Win7 key to activate my Win10. You don't actually need a Win10 license from what I understand, just have to put up with watermarks.

 

My system should be able to pretty much run anything and get good frame rates at 4k. 

so i don't need all the things i send you (2555 euros), i just go for your setup?

[tathunter]

3 minutes ago, Fauxknight said:

 

This is actually something I didn't need, and it can be fairly pricey. I used my old Win7 key to activate my Win10. You don't actually need a Win10 license from what I understand, just have to put up with watermarks.

 

My system should be able to pretty much run anything and get good frame rates at 4k. 

can you please list your setup and add the exact monior+mouse+keyboard? would help a lot

[Fauxknight]

2 minutes ago, tathunter said:

you seem to know a lot more about it then me, currently, i live with my parents so all my income is spared, can you please add and modify the things i send you to what you would do yourself as i don't completely understand what you mean, sorry for not knowing

Well lets see if I can break down what I said a bit more.

 

1. SSDs/HDD. You normally want a SSD (solid state drive - they're superfast) to run windows from, this changes your boot time to like 30 seconds instead of a couple of minutes. For general storage most people use the older style HDDs (hard disk drive) because they are cheaper for the volume of data they can hold.  The real decision here is if you want to run your games off a SSD for faster booting or since games generally take a lot of storage to just keep them on your HDD. A normal setup would be a 128GB SSD with a 2TB HDD. Note that in my build I didn't even use a HDD, just a single 500GB SSD...I don't really keep old games installed and I don't collect a lot of junk storage items, but if you need more storage extra drives are easy to add later.

 

More 1. There are several different types of SSD drives, they are all very fast, but some are slightly faster and cost more. The basic version that most people use is a 2.5" drive, the next step up is the M.2 (I can see a lot of people using these because they aren't too much more and are easy and clean to install), I won't even go into SSD on Pcie cards...just don't.

 

 

2. Cases have different sizes, full tower cases are monstrously huge and you pay for that extra metal (and plastic and glass and whatever). The advantage of a huge case is being able to add lots of stuff like 4 optical drives and 8 hard drives and silly stuff like that. Mid tower is a more common use size for gaming, my new midtower is on the smaller side even for a midtower, but it has room for more drives than I'll ever need (though it doesn't actually have a slot for a floppy or optical). The Corsair 750D is not too expensive of a case, but you can get something for half the price that will work just fine.

 

 

3. Basic air cooling is done with fans and heatsinks and isn't quite as strong as a water cooling/radiator set up. The thing is air cooling is generally more than adequate unless you plan overclocking your system for extra performance. When you overclock you generate a ton more heat than running at standard speeds and at that point you need a better cooling set up to make sure your don't overheat your system.