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Is an AMD FreeSync monitor worth not getting a higher quality monitor?

Tico

I recently purchased a mid ranged pre-built gaming desktop which has the AMD RX 580 (4gb) graphics card. After hearing about FreeSync i ended up finding a fairly cheap Samsung monitor with it (ls24f350fhnxza). A little later I found a monitor that seems to generally be priced more at around the same price as the Samsung, from LG (24mp88hv). It has even thinner bezels, the stand seems nicer, and from what I heard it is of better image quality than the Samsung. The Samsung is still very nice so it's not like the FreeSync is the only thing good about it. I am wondering if the AMD FreeSync is worth not getting a higher quality monitor.

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Freesync improved the quality of the monitor to some extent so it could push it over the edge. No tearing vs tearing makes a good bit of difference in image quality. 

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Freesync improved the quality of the monitor to some extent so it could push it over the edge. No tearing vs tearing makes a good bit of difference in image quality. 

I would probably use regular Vsync if getting the LG if that makes a difference. I'm not planning on getting too much over 60fps

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I'd just get the Freesync-less LG and use settings that keeps fps above 60. After all Freesync only works when fps is below refresh rate.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd just get the Freesync-less LG and use settings that keeps fps above 60. After all Freesync only works when fps is below refresh rate.

it's harder to do then it seems, all you need is a drop in fps and you get screen tearing

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd just get the Freesync-less LG and use settings that keeps fps above 60. After all Freesync only works when fps is below refresh rate.

I'm pretty sure you can get screen tearing even passed your monitors refresh rate. Are you referring to regular V-Sync?

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2 minutes ago, asus killer said:

it's harder to do then it seems, all you need is a drop in fps and you get screen tearing

I myself lived with screen tearing for many years until recently getting a Gsync laptop, and tbh they don't look all that different to me. That said, I don't play competitive games.

 

1 minute ago, Tico said:

I'm pretty sure you can get screen tearing even passed your monitors refresh rate. Are you referring to regular V-Sync?

That's why those using adaptive sync also set a frame rate limiter, in games' settings menu or software like RTSS (bundled with MSI Afterburner) or Nvidia Fast sync, to just below their monitor's refresh rate to ensure adaptive sync works all the time. Compared to Vsync, these frame rate limiters have much less input lag.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I myself lived with screen tearing for many years until recently getting a Gsync laptop, and tbh they don't look all that different to me. That said, I don't play competitive games.

 

That's why those using adaptive sync also set a frame rate limiter, in games' settings menu or software like RTSS (bundled with MSI Afterburner) or Nvidia Fast sync, to just below their monitor's refresh rate to ensure adaptive sync works all the time. Compared to Vsync, these frame rate limiters have much less input lag.

so if I set FreeSync to 60fps will that be better than Vsync set to 60fps?

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Just now, Tico said:

so if I set FreeSync to 60fps will that be better than Vsync set to 60fps?

Neither Freesync nor Gsync limit frame rates. On Nvidia you can use Fast sync, but AMD doesnt have an equivalent for that as far as I know so you will need your own frame rate cap software.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Neither Freesync nor Gsync limit frame rates. On Nvidia you can use Fast sync, but AMD doesnt have an equivalent for that as far as I know so you will need your own frame rate cap software.

does this mean if i have over 60fps FreeSync does nothing? or does it still get rid of screen tearing?

 

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5 minutes ago, Tico said:

does this mean if i have over 60fps FreeSync does nothing? or does it still get rid of screen tearing?

 

yes above monitor's refresh rate Freesync (and Gsync as well) does nothing and will allow screen tearing to appear. That's why people who want to remove screen tearing but don't care about Vsync's input lag will enable Free/Gsync and Vsync at the same time.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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