Not Happy With Temps

[RocketJump]

Specs:

Core i7 8700k

Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 5

Kraken x62 AIO

 

So I've kept my 8700k stock since I got it a year ago and decided to OC it just recently. I started with 1.35v, LLC turbo and 5GHz which booted just fine except for the fact that if I ran Aida with stress on CPU/FPU/MEM it would go into the 90s which I'm not comfortable with. I lowered it down to 4.8GHz and found a stable vcore at 1.260v but again, I wasn't happy with the temps being in the mid 80s with AIDA CPU/FPU/MEM which would happen pretty much instantly after running the test. I've triple checked and made sure paste was applied correctly as well and it looked good to me. I also have my AIO pump and fan curves set to react based on liquid temp which I've been doing for years. Are my expectations unrealistic to want a 4.8GHz OC that won't spike to the 80s during stress testing, did I get a garbage chip or is my cooling not sufficient? I'm using a Thermaltake Core P3 case which is open. Any help appreciated. 

[Jimkirk363]

If ur not happy with temps get an AIO that will cool the chip well.

[Tristerin]

4 minutes ago, RocketJump said:

Specs:

Core i7 8700k

Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 5

Kraken x62 AIO

 

So I've kept my 8700k stock since I got it a year ago and decided to OC it just recently. I started with 1.35v, LLC turbo and 5GHz which booted just fine except for the fact that if I ran Aida with stress on CPU/FPU/MEM it would go into the 90s which I'm not comfortable with. I lowered it down to 4.8GHz and found a stable vcore at 1.260v but again, I wasn't happy with the temps being in the mid 80s with AIDA CPU/FPU/MEM which would happen pretty much instantly after running the test. I've triple checked and made sure paste was applied correctly as well and it looked good to me. I also have my AIO pump and fan curves set to react based on liquid temp which I've been doing for years. Are my expectations unrealistic to want a 4.8GHz OC that won't spike to the 80s during stress testing, did I get a garbage chip or is my cooling not sufficient? I'm using a Thermaltake Core P3 case which is open. Any help appreciated. 

My only thoughts, and this is worth a test imho is put a box fan on it - maybe you need airflow around the entire unit, idk - but my rig with 11 fans, sitting next to my other rig with 6 fans...put my hand next to the rear exhaust and the 11 fan rig is blowing MUCH cooler air out.  Not that its hot by any means out the other, but it is what it is.  My AIO is on top, and the cool air coming out the top is nice...my max temps under load for an hour is 55c on an H100i v2 AIO

[boey]

4 minutes ago, jimkirk363 said:

If ur not happy with temps get an AIO that will cool the chip well.

 

7 minutes ago, RocketJump said:

Kraken x62 AIO

 

[RocketJump]

3 minutes ago, jimkirk363 said:

If ur not happy with temps get an AIO that will cool the chip well.

The Kraken x62 is supposed to be fairly decent. I don't want to buy another AIO and have the same results. I'm the thinking something else might be the issue but I'm not sure. I'm benching right now @ 4.7GHz with 1.80vcore. 7 minutes in on Aida64 and one core hit 84c. Seems a little high to me.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, RocketJump said:

The Kraken x62 is supposed to be fairly decent. I don't want to buy another AIO and have the same results. I'm the thinking something else might be the issue but I'm not sure. I'm benching right now @ 4.7GHz with 1.80vcore. 7 minutes in on Aida64 and one core hit 84c. Seems a little high to me.

Its a great AIO, check what I posted above

[RocketJump]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

My only thoughts, and this is worth a test imho is put a box fan on it - maybe you need airflow around the entire unit, idk - but my rig with 11 fans, sitting next to my other rig with 6 fans...put my hand next to the rear exhaust and the 11 fan rig is blowing MUCH cooler air out.  Not that its hot by any means out the other, but it is what it is.  My AIO is on top, and the cool air coming out the top is nice...my max temps under load for an hour is 55c on an H100i v2 AIO

I have a thermaltake core p3 case. It's an open case so can't put any fans in there.

[Tristerin]

4 minutes ago, RocketJump said:

I have a thermaltake core p3 case. It's an open case so can't put any fans in there.

Take a room fan, house fan, box fan and place it pointing at the front open (where ODD typically go) area and let it blow air through the rig.  Then do the same tests.  

 

EDIT Its an oversaturation of air, but it will give us a culprit potentially (lack of ambient airflow)

[RocketJump]

22 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Take a room fan, house fan, box fan and place it pointing at the front open (where ODD typically go) area and let it blow air through the rig.  Then do the same tests.  

 

EDIT Its an oversaturation of air, but it will give us a culprit potentially (lack of ambient airflow)

Temps were the same. I did however change MCE from Auto to disabled and noticed a drop. That could have been it but I'm not sure until I run a test overnight.

[nick name]

29 minutes ago, RocketJump said:

Specs:

Core i7 8700k

Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 5

Kraken x62 AIO

 

So I've kept my 8700k stock since I got it a year ago and decided to OC it just recently. I started with 1.35v, LLC turbo and 5GHz which booted just fine except for the fact that if I ran Aida with stress on CPU/FPU/MEM it would go into the 90s which I'm not comfortable with. I lowered it down to 4.8GHz and found a stable vcore at 1.260v but again, I wasn't happy with the temps being in the mid 80s with AIDA CPU/FPU/MEM which would happen pretty much instantly after running the test. I've triple checked and made sure paste was applied correctly as well and it looked good to me. I also have my AIO pump and fan curves set to react based on liquid temp which I've been doing for years. Are my expectations unrealistic to want a 4.8GHz OC that won't spike to the 80s during stress testing, did I get a garbage chip or is my cooling not sufficient? I'm using a Thermaltake Core P3 case which is open. Any help appreciated. 

Ayyy I have the P3 also with a 360 AIO.  Do you have the back of the "case" installed?  I found my AIO performed better with that back removed.  I also have the air flow of my AIO going from the "front" of the case to the "back".  Also, do you have the clear panel installed on the front?  And when I am doing benchmark runs I will point a oscillating fan at the PC but I have the fan pulling colder air from an open window to blow toward the PC.  

 

And it sounds like you might just need to de-lid your CPU.  Your temps sound a lot like people that haven't de-lidded their CPU.  And I am just offering my opinion based off of reading others' reviews and posts.  I don't have any practical knowledge of an 8700K.  

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

Can't even see it from the front.

Helped with GPU and CPU/VRAM temps.

 

 

I do something similar, but I put the fan directly on top of the GPU.  

[mxk]

If you want better airflow but don't want to pay for a new aio, it would probably be a good choice to get a different case with great airflow and stock that thing with some good fans. I know the open case looks nice, but if you would rather have performance over looks then I think a new case and some good fans is the way to go. The fractal design meshify C has a temp glass window, a mesh front (its in the name), and 5 120mm fan slots.

 

If you don't want to change cases, consider buying some nice ass fans for the aio. Most aio coolers don't come with very good fans. Noctua makes some crazy good 140mm fans for $15 each (and they aren't that signature noctua poop brown!)

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Bearing-NF-P14s-redux-1200-PWM/dp/B00KF7Q4WG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

[xg32]

1 hour ago, RocketJump said:

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i'd say those are pretty good temps assuming you havent delid the sucker. 8700ks are a bit toasty.

[RocketJump]

46 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i'd say those are pretty good temps assuming you havent delid the sucker. 8700ks are a bit toasty.

Good to know, I think I might just delid it.

[RocketJump]

12 hours ago, mxk. said:

If you want better airflow but don't want to pay for a new aio, it would probably be a good choice to get a different case with great airflow and stock that thing with some good fans. I know the open case looks nice, but if you would rather have performance over looks then I think a new case and some good fans is the way to go. The fractal design meshify C has a temp glass window, a mesh front (its in the name), and 5 120mm fan slots.

 

If you don't want to change cases, consider buying some nice ass fans for the aio. Most aio coolers don't come with very good fans. Noctua makes some crazy good 140mm fans for $15 each (and they aren't that signature noctua poop brown!)

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Bearing-NF-P14s-redux-1200-PWM/dp/B00KF7Q4WG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Turns out the bracket was a bit off causing poor contact with the block. I re installed the bracket and only got a max temp of 80c after 3 hours in AIDA.

[mxk]

1 minute ago, RocketJump said:

Turns out the bracket was a bit off causing poor contact with the block. I re installed the bracket and only got a max temp of 80c after 3 hours in AIDA.

hahaha lol. Good thing you checked.

[nick name]

1 hour ago, RocketJump said:

Turns out the bracket was a bit off causing poor contact with the block. I re installed the bracket and only got a max temp of 80c after 3 hours in AIDA.

Oh man.  Just think what it would be if you do decide to de-lid.  

[RocketJump]

1 hour ago, nick name said:

Oh man.  Just think what it would be if you do decide to de-lid.  

I'm probably still going to de-lid. 

[nick name]

Just now, RocketJump said:

I'm probably still going to de-lid. 

Ooooh how exciting.  Hopefully that will mean you can hit some higher speeds too.