Is Ryzen's R5 2600 enough?

[Galion]

We're building a entertainment system for my uncle's man cave, I'm wondering if a 2600/2600X is enough for a 4K driving simulation system or should I get a 2700/2700X? (using a 4k Samsung curved TV) 

GPU decided on a GTX 1080ti 11gb from zotac. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

I'd go for an 8700K, personally.

 

Don't get a Zotac card, they're not good quality. Go for something from EVGA or Asus instead.

[GoldenLag]

At 4K pretty much every CPU is enough. 

 

Edit: the 2600 is pretty much plenty

[cj09beira]

specially at 4k its more than enough, you shouldn't have a problem 

[Princess Luna]

4k60fps the Ryzen 5 2600 indeed may suffice.

 

Like stated avoid the AMP! Zotac cards, they have a design flaw on their VRM.

[Jurrunio]

Zotac... it better be cheap, like massively cheaper than other new cards around. Oh, and forget overclocking.on air cooled ones.

[Galion]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

4k60fps the Ryzen 5 2600 indeed may suffice.

 

Like stated avoid the AMP! Zotac cards, they have a design flaw on their VRM.

What flaw I've been using a zotac gtx 1080 mini in my work system 

 

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Zotac... it better be cheap, like massively cheaper than other new cards around. Oh, and forget overclocking.on air cooled ones.

Well asus one is $70 more

MSI is $35 more

EVGA is $55 more

Galax is same price tho

[Fasauceome]

There was an LTT video about CPU performance in 2018, Intel has the lead in 4k. An i7 8700 ought to do it.

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Galion said:

Well asus one is $70 more

MSI is $35 more

EVGA is $55 more

Galax is same price tho

which specific models are you talking about?

 

11 minutes ago, Galion said:

What flaw I've been using a zotac gtx 1080 mini in my work system 

Zotac custom cards use cheap crappy mosfets and VRM heatsink is tiny and does not connect to the huge fin stack which could help with the poor VRM efficiency (hence high heat output and temperature). Mini just amplifies the problem with a higher thermal density.

 

Gamers Nexus did a 1080ti comparison video, showing Zotac amp cards to be worse in VRM temperature than even the 'do not use with factory cooler' MSI Armor.

[Galion]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

which specific models are you talking about?

 

Zotac custom cards use cheap crappy mosfets and VRM heatsink is tiny and does not connect to the huge fin stack which could help with the poor VRM efficiency (hence high heat output and temperature). Mini just amplifies the problem with a higher thermal density.

 

Gamers Nexus did a 1080ti comparison video, showing Zotac amp cards to be worse in VRM temperature than even the 'do not use with factory cooler' MSI Armor.

MSI armour

Asus strix

EVGA sc black edition 

Galax sniper

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Galion said:

MSI armour

Asus strix

EVGA sc black edition 

Galax sniper

MSI armor automatically out, unless you're throwing away the stock cooling anyway

 

Strix is quite expensive, but it is the best performing card at the same time so it's a premium product at a premium price.

 

Galax one is actually quite good, aside from fans that never stop so noise level could be a bit higher. Some also reported that the white shroud isn't white, but cream in colour like old plastic. It is comparatively cheap though. I'd prefer this for that.

 

EVGA has great customer service and the card is decent, sadly it's priced too close to the Strix.

[Quadriplegic]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

There was an LTT video about CPU performance in 2018, Intel has the lead in 4k. An i7 8700 ought to do it.

So you are suggesting him to spend 2 times more for 3-5 extra FPS in 4k?

Although, I guess it depends on what kind of simulation they plan to run

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

So you are suggesting him to spend 2 times more for 3-5 extra FPS in 4k?

Although, I guess it depends on what kind of simulation they plan to run

LTT showed a performance Delta up to 30%, so no, that's not what I'm suggesting

[Quadriplegic]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

LTT showed a performance Delta up to 30%, so no, that's not what I'm suggesting

You'll be hard pressed to find 30% delta in 1080p, let alone 4k.

HU's most recent 4k test:

You can expect 2600x to be couple of frames behind 2700x, but again, 30% difference nowhere to be found

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

 

You can expect 2600x to be couple of frames behind 2700x, but again, 30% difference nowhere to be found

This video at 3:15

[Quadriplegic]

33 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

This video at 3:15

It's bit weird how the difference between average FPS at 1440p is smaller than difference between average FPS at 4k. We all know that the higher resolution, the more load shifts to video card

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

It's bit weird how the difference between average FPS at 1440p is smaller than difference between average FPS at 4k. We all know that the higher resolution, the more load shifts to video card

Which was indeed noted in the video, and could be chalked up to optimization anomalies. I wasn't able to find any substantial data regarding racing sims specifically, so it may not really matter.

[Galion]

11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

MSI armor automatically out, unless you're throwing away the stock cooling anyway

 

Strix is quite expensive, but it is the best performing card at the same time so it's a premium product at a premium price.

 

Galax one is actually quite good, aside from fans that never stop so noise level could be a bit higher. Some also reported that the white shroud isn't white, but cream in colour like old plastic. It is comparatively cheap though. I'd prefer this for that.

 

EVGA has great customer service and the card is decent, sadly it's priced too close to the Strix.

Yea well I'm either going for galax or evga depending if the evga one still has stock

[Galion]

9 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Which was indeed noted in the video, and could be chalked up to optimization anomalies. I wasn't able to find any substantial data regarding racing sims specifically, so it may not really matter.

LOL I ain't going for the 9th gen after the temp reviews by hardware unbox Ed and Steve from gamer 

[Fasauceome]

9 hours ago, Galion said:

LOL I ain't going for the 9th gen after the temp reviews by hardware unbox Ed and Steve from gamer 

Yeah but I recommended 8th gen, the 8700. Easy to cool (relatively) since you aren't overclocking.