could i solder my IHS to my CPU cooler?

[Nogghan]

1 minute ago, Neo-revo said:

nice,  good to know if i want to buff something to a nice finish

Well if you wanted to buff that it would be even more reflective, that's just like 30 mins of circles with 7000 grit lightly wet sandpaper 

[AnonymousGuy]

You would very likely kill the chip from thermal stress.  When the IHS is being soldered during assembly it goes through a very precise recipe for heat presoak, temperature ramp rates, cooldown, etc.  

 

Re: lapping, it makes no significant difference.  You guys are also confusing level with true.  level means the surface is true to a horizontal plane.  true just means its flat (but could be flat at angle).  If you're lapping by hand you're highly likely to make the surface true but not level.  In any case it's been tested...not worth doing. 

[Nogghan]

28 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

You would very likely kill the chip from thermal stress.  When the IHS is being soldered during assembly it goes through a very precise recipe for heat presoak, temperature ramp rates, cooldown, etc.  

 

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Wtf are you talking about? 

the cpu is delidded how would I kill anything with soldering? 

Also what are you talking about intel doesn’t solder their IHS till 9th gen and those aren’t out yet so you’re not talking about that... 

I’m just talking about taking a low temp solder and probably a heat gun to heat the IHS separately from the cold plate but still heat both then just apply the IHS to the cold plate where I have it marked so that I can resocket or resolder it 

[AnonymousGuy]

I doubt you would see any significant gains, since the thickness of the TIM between the IHS and the heatsink is negligible.  Eg. there's no significant benefit to using liquid metal there vs. paste.  You'd be better off messing with the mounting mechanism for the cooler to direct-die the chip.  Everything else you're asking for major effort and hassle to get a couple degrees best case that won't impact temperatures/overclocks.  The only big jump is the delid which you've already done.

[knightslugger]

1 hour ago, Nogghan said:

Also what are you talking about intel doesn’t solder their IHS till 9th gen

There were several generations that were soldered.

[Nogghan]

1 minute ago, knightslugger said:

There were several generations that were soldered.

Right but they are so old basically nobody playing modern games uses one and also it's so old like I said that it's almost not worth bringing up anymore except with the new upcoming 9th gen 

[knightslugger]

28 minutes ago, Nogghan said:

Right but they are so old basically nobody playing modern games uses one and also it's so old like I said that it's almost not worth bringing up anymore except with the new upcoming 9th gen 

@PCGuy_5960 laid it out pretty well here. see anything in this list worth mentioning?

 

On 9/24/2017 at 3:42 PM, PCGuy_5960 said:

Nope, 2nd generation i3s, i5s and i7s (LGA 1155) are soldered. All LGA 2011 (3820, 3930K, 3960X, 3970X, 4820K, 4930K, 4960X and Xeons) and LGA 2011-3 (5820K, 5930K, 5960X, 6800K, 6850K, 6950X and Xeons) CPUs are soldered

[Nogghan]

1 hour ago, knightslugger said:

@PCGuy_5960 laid it out pretty well here. see anything in this list worth mentioning?

 

no i dont see a single CPU there worth mentioning because of how old they are and how out classed they are by even an 8600k yes they are soldered wooohoooo but nobody is buying those CPUs today to build a new gaming PC its just not happening 

[knightslugger]

1 hour ago, Nogghan said:

no i dont see a single CPU there worth mentioning because of how old they are and how out classed they are by even an 8600k yes they are soldered wooohoooo but nobody is buying those CPUs today to build a new gaming PC its just not happening 

So a 10 core, 20 thread 3.5GHz boost (4.3GHz OC) CPU doesn't do it for ya...

[Nogghan]

13 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

So a 10 core, 20 thread 3.5GHz boost (4.3GHz OC) CPU doesn't do it for ya...

not for $400+it doesnt when i can get a 6 core 12 thread that will out perform it for 350? no no it doesnt not at all

[knightslugger]

2 minutes ago, Nogghan said:

not for $400+it doesnt when i can get a 6 core 12 thread that will out perform it for 350? no no it doesnt not at all

You are very myopic. 

[the dutch guy]

20 hours ago, knightslugger said:

i'm curious, what exactly do think "crooked" means?

 

Because it does not mean what you think it means.

curved, twisted, bent, warped, probably a lot more words fit the discription. it also is a word used to discribe a politican.

[Neo-revo]

i think if you have these older chips and get satisfactory performance you can handle/enjoy  @knightslugger makes fair points.

 

Building a new system  the only real difference between the 8-5 years ago high performance parts  and the NEW stuff is  their die sizes which in turn has affected the  general efficiency and ability to add more cores at lower speed and hyper threading to increase performance.  with out sacrificing wattage use  and lowering over all TDP managed.

 

i want to upgrade, but  since i cant just pop in a new cpu this time, i  would need to invest mobo, cpu and ram.    and ram would be the biggest cost since running 2400mhz ddr3 at 10-12-12-31@ 1.65  the only real increase id see is if i also went with OC ram, and  32gb at 2400 is nothing to shake a stick at..

In the end i think it depends more on how you use your system (settings for games/resolution)  has a bigger effect on overall performance than  age of hardware. 

 

FOR proof watch the LTT scrapyard wars series.

 

Used part work just fine most of the time if you dont run into a shady indv @Nogghan

[kontradictions]

I just saw this old video from der8auer about this.

 

Skip to 10:11 if the embed doesn't work correctly.

 

[TristanVash38]

Did you do this? How did it turn out