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I'm helping someone with a system upgrade he already has a asus gtx 970 gaming 4gb he wants to get a RX580 I don't think it's worth it but the boy says the RX 580 is 50 percent high fps I still think it's about the same, need help answering the comparison thanks

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they are about on par with each other, no idea where they got the 50% more fps, but it's incredibly wrong

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in situations that uses 8GB of VRAM completely and uses DX12 or Vulkan heavily, then that's possible.

 

In general, RX 580 is about 10-15% better.

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The 580 is a bit better and I'm sure you can find a specific title somewhere that shows a 50% increase in fps. That being said, it's not that much better overall. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-RX-580/2577vs3923

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According to UserBenchmark, the RX 580 and GTX 970 are very similar in performance, with the exception of Parallax, a render test having to do with certain lighting elements, more info on that here.

 

With the current prices of the RX 580 and the performance he already has with the GTX 970, I would say he is better off keeping the 970 unless he wants to opt for a freesync monitor then maybe. 

 

Scrolling down to the portion that shows game frame rates with both cards, the performance difference is negligible with the understanding of margin of error. It is ultimately up to him but he should be aware that it is not worth the cost of getting an RX 580 in replacement of a GTX 970. If he is willing to save up a little more, the 1070 and Vega56 are good options as an upgrade

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6 minutes ago, Arika S said:

they are about on par with each other, no idea where they got the 50% more fps, but it's incredibly wrong

 

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

in situations that uses 8GB of VRAM completely and uses DX12 or Vulkan heavily, then that's possible.

 

In general, RX 580 is about 10-15% better.

 

4 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

The 580 is a bit better and I'm sure you can find a specific title somewhere that shows a 50% increase in fps. That being said, it's not that much better overall. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-RX-580/2577vs3923

 

4 minutes ago, Vengeance1020 said:

According to UserBenchmark, the RX 580 and GTX 970 are very similar in performance, with the exception of Parallax, a render test having to do with certain lighting elements, more info on that here.

 

With the current prices of the RX 580 and the performance he already has with the GTX 970, I would say he is better off keeping the 970 unless he wants to opt for a freesync monitor then maybe. 

 

Scrolling down to the portion that shows game frame rates with both cards, the performance difference is negligible with the understanding of margin of error. It is ultimately up to him but he should be aware that it is not worth the cost of getting an RX 580 in replacement of a GTX 970. If he is willing to save up a little more, the 1070 and Vega56 are good options as an upgrade

Thank you everyone I showed him the post he has decided to save the cash on the gpu and get a 2700 and not the 2400g and better ram too 3200 and not 2400

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