Looking for laptop around 650 usd

[Aldoarip]

So, I need a laptop for auditing software (acl, excel). I will also be gaming on this thing. Oh, and I will bring this laptop to my auditing classes. My budget is around 10.000.000 IDR or 650 USD. I've looked around and find these two laptop:

 

Acer e5 476g

https://m.tokopedia.com/acerid/acer-aspire-e14-high-performance-e5-476g-core-i5-8250u-mx150-w10?lt=%2Fshoppage+-+product+7+-+product+-+all

 

Acer swift 3

https://m.tokopedia.com/acerid/acer-swift-3-acer-day-sf314-54g-core-i5-4gb-1tb-mx150-w10?lt=%2Fshoppage+-+product+8+-+product+-+all

 

The swift 3 costs 250.000 IDR more, but lighter, thinner and looks more premium. The rest of the budget will be spent on another 4GB stick of ram and 256GB m.2 ssd.

 

Which one is better, and if you have better suggestion please tell me. 

 

You can use these sites:

Tokopedia.com

Enterkomputer.com

Rakitonline.com

[PlayStation 2]

From the looks of it, the top Acer has fully upgradeable RAM while the bottom one has 4GB on-board, with potential for upgrades in that same area, too.

I'd get the top one, personally.

[genexis_x]

Swift 3 is much better

 

Any other models with 8250U/8550U/Ryzen CPU that are within your budget?

[Aldoarip]

4 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

From the looks of it, the top Acer has fully upgradeable RAM while the bottom one has 4GB on-board, with potential for upgrades in that same area, too.

I'd get the top one, personally.

I don't think I need more than 8 gigs tho. So I assume 4+4 will be enough(?). Anyway thanks for your input.

[Aldoarip]

16 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Swift 3 is much better

 

Any other models with 8250U/8550U/Ryzen CPU that are within your budget?

There are a lot actually. But they either came with no dgpu or mx130 which is quite a downgrade(?) As for ryzen laptop, only this one:

Lenovo Ideapad 330-4SID/4RID/4TID 9.650.000 IDR
AMD Ryzen 7 2700U, RAM 8GB, HDD 1TB, 15.6" HD, AMD Radeon 540 2GB, DVDRW, Win 10

 

Edit I found these too:

 

Acer Aspire 3 (A315) Win 10 7.575.000 IDR
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, RAM 8GB, HDD 1TB, Non DVD, AMD Radeon RX VEGA 8, Camera, 15.6" HD LED, Win 10 

 

Asus X505ZA-BR501T 8.025.000 ID
AMD Ryzen R5-2500U, RAM 8GB, HDD 1TB, 15.6", AMD Radeon RX Vega 8, No DVD, Win 10 Home

 

 

HP 14-CM0075AU/CM0076AU/CM0077AU/CM0078AU 7.800.000 IDR

AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, RAM 4GB, HDD 1TB, 14" HD, UMA Graphics, No DVDRW, Win 10 Home

Edited September 24, 2018 by Aldoarip

[genexis_x]

Stick with Swift 3. Still the best choice

[Aldoarip]

9 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Stick with Swift 3. Still the best choice

I heard it gets hot while gaming. There is also weird sound like the fan blade touches a part of the laptop (coil whine) according to some people. Is it okay?

[jonrosalia]

what about the Huawei Laptop MateBook D 53010CRG ? it has Vega graphics and a ryzen 2500u for $600 or so.

[Aldoarip]

4 hours ago, jonrosalia said:

what about the Huawei Laptop MateBook D 53010CRG ? it has Vega graphics and a ryzen 2500u for $600 or so.

Sadly Huawei is not an option here in Indonesia.

[genexis_x]

16 hours ago, Aldoarip said:

I heard it gets hot while gaming

From what I know the cooling is pretty standard for Ultrabooks/regular laptops. So cooling performance should be OK, not the best but not the worst

16 hours ago, Aldoarip said:

There is also weird sound like the fan blade touches a part of the laptop (coil whine) according to some people. Is it okay?

This is QC issue which can happen in every model

[Aldoarip]

7 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

From what I know the cooling is pretty standard for Ultrabooks/regular laptops. So cooling performance should be OK, not the best but not the worst

This is QC issue which can happen in every model

So should be fine for gaming on low settings? Are there any issues that I should aware of regarding i5 8250u and mx 150? Is mx 150 on this laptop the full variant or the slower one?

[genexis_x]

7 hours ago, Aldoarip said:

So should be fine for gaming on low settings? Are there any issues that I should aware of regarding i5 8250u and mx 150? Is mx 150 on this laptop the full variant or the slower one?

1. Should be fine

 

2. Optimus shutter issue (can Google for that), KBL-R runs hot (needs undervolting)

 

3. Should be the 25W one, however it's a downclocked a bit in the new Swift 3

[Aldoarip]

Will undervolting solve the overheating problem? Or do I need to change the thermal paste out of the box?

[genexis_x]

53 minutes ago, Aldoarip said:

Will undervolting solve the overheating problem? Or do I need to change the thermal paste out of the box?

Should help. Repaste is even better

[Aldoarip]

21 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Should help. Repaste is even better

So I saw your "tier" list of laptops. Why did acer swift 3 sf314 54g, the one that you recommend got placed on the "good" tier instead of "top" ?

[genexis_x]

5 hours ago, Aldoarip said:

So I saw your "tier" list of laptops. Why did acer swift 3 sf314 54g, the one that you recommend got placed on the "good" tier instead of "top" ?

It uses entry level IPS. Also, build quality is good, but not 'excellent'. Still a good budget model

[Aldoarip]

2 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

It uses entry level IPS. Also, build quality is good, but not 'excellent'. Still a good budget model

Ah okay. Do you perefer nvme or sata ssd for this kind of laptop? Does nvme ssd going to be bottlenecked by the cpu? If not, will it interfere with pcle bandwith or something?

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, Aldoarip said:

Do you perefer nvme or sata ssd for this kind of laptop? Does nvme ssd going to be bottlenecked by the cpu? If not, will it interfere with pcle bandwith or something?

Doesn't matter really. Normal users won't notice a difference.

 

What do you mean by bottlenecked by CPU? PCIe bandwidth depends on motherboard implementation and chipset

[Aldoarip]

54 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Doesn't matter really. Normal users won't notice a difference.

 

What do you mean by bottlenecked by CPU? PCIe bandwidth depends on motherboard implementation and chipset

Should I get a cooling pad or something to help the thermals?

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, Aldoarip said:

Should I get a cooling pad or something to help the thermals?

Cooling pad will help but not much. Better do undervolt+repaste

[Syrune54]

On 9/24/2018 at 10:28 PM, Aldoarip said:

So, I need a laptop for auditing software (acl, excel). I will also be gaming on this thing. Oh, and I will bring this laptop to my auditing classes. My budget is around 10.000.000 IDR or 650 USD. I've looked around and find these two laptop:

 

Acer e5 476g

https://m.tokopedia.com/acerid/acer-aspire-e14-high-performance-e5-476g-core-i5-8250u-mx150-w10?lt=%2Fshoppage+-+product+7+-+product+-+all

 

Acer swift 3

https://m.tokopedia.com/acerid/acer-swift-3-acer-day-sf314-54g-core-i5-4gb-1tb-mx150-w10?lt=%2Fshoppage+-+product+8+-+product+-+all

 

The swift 3 costs 250.000 IDR more, but lighter, thinner and looks more premium. The rest of the budget will be spent on another 4GB stick of ram and 256GB m.2 ssd.

 

Which one is better, and if you have better suggestion please tell me. 

 

You can use these sites:

Tokopedia.com

Enterkomputer.com

Rakitonline.com

the swift 3 looks better tho.

 

oh hey ur from indonesia wassup btw (hehe)

[Aldoarip]

30 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Cooling pad will help but not much. Better do undervolt+repaste

Any thermal paste will do it, right?

[genexis_x]

2 minutes ago, Aldoarip said:

Any thermal paste will do it, right?

Avoid MX-4

[Aldoarip]

12 minutes ago, Andrew54 said:

the swift 3 looks better tho.

 

oh hey ur from indonesia wassup btw (hehe)

Yeah it looks miles better than the aspire e5. Are you indonesian too? Nice

[Syrune54]

Just now, Aldoarip said:

Yeah it looks miles better than the aspire e5. Are you indonesian too? Nice

yea man