Where are all the good <= 26 inch FHD TVs?

[Copen-08]

Hi. So, I am currently using this monitor as my TV https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072M34RQC/

 

and I love it as a display. It's a nice size, and has IPS so I don't get glare when the sun is behind my window, but it's not perfect. It doesn't send the right info for audio on some of the things I hook up to it, and I have to go into the settings menu to change the volume.

I decided to try checking Amazon to see if there are any HDTVs like it, and found very few HDTVs that were less then 24 inches, and only one still selling at 22 inches. Right now I feel like anything above 26 inches is taking up space I don't have or want to give to a TV, and I can't seem to find any HDTVs with IPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel

 

So I was wondering if y'all know of any.

[AngryBeaver]

I think the biggest problem you are going to run in to is that tv's under about 32" are getting pretty hard to find these days. I mean when you can get a 32" for under a hundred bucks on sales now... then there isn't much use for them outside of special space issues like in an RV.

[PlayStation 2]

Best bet is to look into something from 2012 or 2013.

[Copen-08]

Yeah, I was worried that would be my reply. It kinda sucks that companies focus on making the screens bigger, or higher res (UHD, 4K) instead of better (OLED, QLED, IPS).

I'd love to just have a good 1080p IPS OLED HDTV.

[TheFlyingTraut]

Vizio has probably one of the few out there.

 

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-24-class-led-d-series-1080p-smart-hdtv/6032516.p?skuId=6032516

[J.b091]

On 9/10/2018 at 2:53 AM, Copen-08 said:

Yeah, I was worried that would be my reply. It kinda sucks that companies focus on making the screens bigger, or higher res (UHD, 4K) instead of better (OLED, QLED, IPS).

I'd love to just have a good 1080p IPS OLED HDTV.

That's because most people have space for bigger TVs and people like bigger, higher resolution TVs rather than those small FHD TVs... Also Oled technology still having burnin issues, so it's not perfect either.

 

Better get more space in room for TV and buy some nice 4k big TV. You will see huge difference, and never look back to those tiny FHD screens, believe me.

[Pasi123]

On 12.9.2018 at 10:33 AM, J.b091 said:

Better get more space in room for TV and buy some nice 4k big TV. You will see huge difference, and never look back to those tiny FHD screens, believe me.

That kinda sounds like you think FHD is a low resolution? 24-26" FHD TV have more pixels per inch than your big 4K UHD TV.

 

Of course it's a lot better experience to watch movies etc. on a big FHD or UHD TV than on a lot smaller TV.

 

Usually smaller TV's are cheaper ones and only have TN panels.

[J.b091]

16 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

That kinda sounds like you think FHD is a low resolution? 24-26" FHD TV have more pixels per inch than your big 4K UHD TV.

 

Of course it's a lot better experience to watch movies etc. on a big FHD or UHD TV than on a lot smaller TV.

 

Usually smaller TV's are cheaper ones and only have TN panels.

comparing to 4k it is low resolution. Even if 24-26 FHD has more pixels per inch, still 4k looks much better in general.

[Pasi123]

2 minutes ago, J.b091 said:

comparing to 4k it is low resolution. Even if 24-26 FHD has more pixels per inch, still 4k looks much better in general.

But the thing with 4K UHD is just to get more pixels per inch, so if you have a 24" FHD TV (or monitor) with a good IPS panel it doesn't look worse than a big 4K UHD IPS TV.

[J.b091]

23 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

But the thing with 4K UHD is just to get more pixels per inch, so if you have a 24" FHD TV (or monitor) with a good IPS panel it doesn't look worse than a big 4K UHD IPS TV.

It's still a small screen and why it matters? He said it sucks that companies focus more on big screens and high res and I replied why they do it & why big screen and high res is better.

[Copen-08]

On 9/13/2018 at 1:36 AM, J.b091 said:

It's still a small screen and why it matters? He said it sucks that companies focus more on big screens and high res and I replied why they do it & why big screen and high res is better.

I'm necro-posting a bit, but I forgot about this topic. The reason it matters is simple: I'm not using any 4k media devices, so I want the best 1080p experience I can get. The Nintendo Switch is still maxing out at 1080p, and that's my main system of choice. I have a normal Xbox One, but I don't think that'll do 4k ether. I'd need a Xbox One X. Besides that, I still play my Switch much more often.

@Pasi123 is right that a screen with more pixels per inch, or dots per inch will result in a better screen then a screen with higher resolution.

I was going to do a "for example" paragraph, but I think everyone should just see for themselves. I've made some images to show off the differences we're disusing.

Some notes before we start:
300 ppi is the start of "HiPPI" Displays according to Uber Gizmo | Do you need hidpi displays?

102 ppi is what my current monitor is giving me at 1080p

54.9 ppi is ever so slightly better then what a 79 inch 4K TV offers according to Lifewire | How many pixels is an inch?

1920 x 1080 is 1080p, FHD, or as it's normally called now HD.
3840 x 2160 is UHD 4K, the most common thing people think of when they just think 4K.

The last image, which starts with the name 005 is just a copy of image 1 for quick comparison with image 004.

These were made in GIMP, and exported as .bmp so there should not be any compression at all.

PPI-imgs.zip

[tikker]

On 27/09/2018 at 7:06 PM, Copen-08 said:

The reason it matters is simple: I'm not using any 4k media devices, so I want the best 1080p experience I can get

Stuff will just get upscaled though. I can't really say my games look any worse on my 4k TV than they do on my 1080p monitor when playing at 1920x1080; same with good quality 1080p source material. You may need to adjust your viewing distance a bit.