ryzen 500€ GPUless build for my wife

[FrenchChef]

1 minute ago, SHROUD said:

Some msi mobos HV pretty bad vrms and caps...so I rarely suggest msi budget boards...also that psu... that ur computer store is offering is pretty crappy..

Ryzen apus benefit from faster dual channel memory

Mind if I contact you again later this year for my own computer build?

[SHROUD]

2 minutes ago, FrenchChef said:

Mind if I contact you again later this year for my own computer build?

Yeah..that's fine....just message me if u have any difficulty ?

[FrenchChef]

On 9/6/2018 at 10:11 PM, SHROUD said:

Yeah..that's fine....just message me if u have any difficulty ?

Question of the day: how do I get wifi for this build? 

[SHROUD]

35 minutes ago, FrenchChef said:

Question of the day: how do I get wifi for this build? 

Get something like this....ND pop it in ur pcie slot.....

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k9ndnQ/asus-pce-ac51-none-wi-fi-adapter-pce-ac51

 

[FrenchChef]

On 9/16/2018 at 8:56 AM, SHROUD said:

Get something like this....ND pop it in ur pcie slot.....

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k9ndnQ/asus-pce-ac51-none-wi-fi-adapter-pce-ac51

 

Okay, it's assembled. Question: is it normal the gaming experience isn't "smooth". Like there is a constant "motion blur" when I play something. It's small but noticeable when you move around your aim / screen. The game is running at 60+ FPS though. Any thoughts? I know I updated the bios and basic drivers. I don't remember if I updated the chipset though.

[Tristerin]

On ‎9‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 6:06 AM, FrenchChef said:

Hello LTT Community,

It is me! A random citizen from the world. I have come with a brain full of dreams and a heart caring for my tender significant other. I may not have the biggest of the budget, but I want to build her a better computer (as for me? Don't mind me... I have an old laptop which does great pixelated games at a toasty 87C°).

Here is what I want: a cheap system which can handle some games (720p / 1080p) in low or medium quality. Those games aren't recent or very demanding (examples: Armello, Endless Legend, Stardew Valley... with hope of playing games like Divinity Original Sin 2 and Phantom Doctrine in low quality). And on the side, a healthy dose of photo editing, coding and small (very small) video editing.

I have a budget of 500€ for the computer (not including mouse / keyboard / screen in the price). I am living in France and I don't want to buy suspicious, too pricey, "barely used" components or computers you can find on Ebay or Leboncoin (French Craigslist).

Therefore, I was thinking about a build like this (excuse me if I am not detailed, I am here asking for help):

ATX size MOBO
Ryzen 2400G
2x4 Go 3200MHz DDR4 Ram
128 Go SSD
1 To HD
??? Power supply
NZXT Source 340 in white (otherwise it's not beautiful) for the case (but I am open for suggestion)

Why no GPU? Because cheap
 

At one point I thought about a Pentium G4560 with a cheap graphic card but what do you think of this? 

 

By a used tower PC - like a HP Pro 6300 i5 3470 (I paid $140 shipped for mine) - then slap a small form factor GTX 1050 ti for $150'ish which requires no additional power connectors ($290'ish).  Then buy a SSD boot drive for less than $30 (these are USA prices) - voila, nice gaming machine.  I have a cheap HD 7750 GPU in my media center and I can play GTA 5 and ARK (lowest settings) in my living room.

 

EASILY less than $400 can get this done and that's not a bad gaming PC - the i5 3470 is a good old chip, comparable to my FX 8350 in gaming (and it games just fine in 2018)

[Tristerin]

9 minutes ago, FrenchChef said:

Okay, it's assembled. Question: is it normal the gaming experience isn't "smooth". Like there is a constant "motion blur" when I play something. It's small but noticeable when you move around your aim / screen. The game is running at 60+ FPS though. Any thoughts? I know I updated the bios and basic drivers. I don't remember if I updated the chipset though.

 

I posted above but didn't read you assembled - sounds like you have Motion Blur turned on in your settings in the game lol.  Turn that off - other than that I have never played on an APU Ryzen so Im not sure

[SHROUD]

21 minutes ago, FrenchChef said:

Okay, it's assembled. Question: is it normal the gaming experience isn't "smooth". Like there is a constant "motion blur" when I play something. It's small but noticeable when you move around your aim / screen. The game is running at 60+ FPS though. Any thoughts? I know I updated the bios and basic drivers. I don't remember if I updated the chipset though.

It seems, u hv motion blur turned on in ur game settings. Turn it off.

Also, I'd recommend u to overclock that Apu. Coz, u can get so much more out of it.

14 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

 

By a used tower PC - like a HP Pro 6300 i5 3470 (I paid $140 shipped for mine) - then slap a small form factor GTX 1050 ti for $150'ish which requires no additional power connectors ($290'ish).  Then buy a SSD boot drive for less than $30 (these are USA prices) - voila, nice gaming machine.  I have a cheap HD 7750 GPU in my media center and I can play GTA 5 and ARK (lowest settings) in my living room.

 

EASILY less than $400 can get this done and that's not a bad gaming PC - the i5 3470 is a good old chip, comparable to my FX 8350 in gaming (and it games just fine in 2018)

I agree, but OP wanted something new. Not used. Also, HP makes some of the worst prebuilts. Reasons- proprietary connectors, less GPU support. 

[FrenchChef]

31 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

It seems, u hv motion blur turned on in ur game settings. Turn it off.

Also, I'd recommend u to overclock that Apu. Coz, u can get so much more out of it.

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It was already off (because I hate it) and it's not motion blur as motion blur is smooth and here it's choppy.

 

To overclock, can I use ryzen master? Or whatever the name is?

[Tristerin]

1 hour ago, SHROUD said:

It seems, u hv motion blur turned on in ur game settings. Turn it off.

Also, I'd recommend u to overclock that Apu. Coz, u can get so much more out of it.

I agree, but OP wanted something new. Not used. Also, HP makes some of the worst prebuilts. Reasons- proprietary connectors, less GPU support. 

I would agree - until I bought one and learned how to convert to ATX with a simple $7 purchase - the mobos are very good, the PSU's that come with them are very good until you need to draw more power than that can give (Lite On is amazing platinum PSU's - I can run a GTX 1060 6gb from the proprietary 320w PSU by pulling 1x sata power from each sata rail provided into the 6pin connector - with everything connected load on PSU is just below 100%  - however I will be doing that with my 7 dollar cable when I decide to splurge on a 1060 for my TV lol.

 

My intent was to give him a much cheaper option only

[SHROUD]

11 hours ago, FrenchChef said:

It was already off (because I hate it) and it's not motion blur as motion blur is smooth and here it's choppy.

 

To overclock, can I use ryzen master? Or whatever the name is?

Yeah....

But I prefer overclocking from the BIOS..

[SHROUD]

10 hours ago, Tristerin said:

I would agree - until I bought one and learned how to convert to ATX with a simple $7 purchase - the mobos are very good, the PSU's that come with them are very good until you need to draw more power than that can give (Lite On is amazing platinum PSU's - I can run a GTX 1060 6gb from the proprietary 320w PSU by pulling 1x sata power from each sata rail provided into the 6pin connector - with everything connected load on PSU is just below 100%  - however I will be doing that with my 7 dollar cable when I decide to splurge on a 1060 for my TV lol.

 

My intent was to give him a much cheaper option only

The way i make PC's out of old prebuilts is i often purchase the sff prebuilts from Dell in bulk fr pretty cheap like $70-80 each. They usually have 3rd gen i5, 8gb ram, 1tb hdd. I transfer the CPU to a new board that I order off from AliExpress fr pretty cheap fr about $40. $30 fr a 240gb SSD. The prebuilts mostly come with a 1tb HDD. I add a new PSU like masterwatt from cooler master ND I put everything in a new case with a windowed side panel. I add in a decent GPU like gtx 960/970/770/780/1050ti new/used. They usually go around fr like $70-80. 

So I basically spend around $250 fr these builds ND I can easily flip them off on criagslist fr $400+.

[FrenchChef]

On 9/29/2018 at 9:27 AM, SHROUD said:

The way i make PC's out of old prebuilts is i often purchase the sff prebuilts from Dell in bulk fr pretty cheap like $70-80 each. They usually have 3rd gen i5, 8gb ram, 1tb hdd. I transfer the CPU to a new board that I order off from AliExpress fr pretty cheap fr about $40. $30 fr a 240gb SSD. The prebuilts mostly come with a 1tb HDD. I add a new PSU like masterwatt from cooler master ND I put everything in a new case with a windowed side panel. I add in a decent GPU like gtx 960/970/770/780/1050ti new/used. They usually go around fr like $70-80. 

So I basically spend around $250 fr these builds ND I can easily flip them off on criagslist fr $400+.

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Okay so going back to the topic of blurriness. I updated everything I could, used the AMD balanced power plan, deactivated everything, reactivated some things in the radeon settings (yatee yata) then used Ryzen Master in game mode, then used VGA instead of HDMI. So far nothing.

There is blurriness IN GAME but not when watching Youtube or other videos (in game for example). Any clue?