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Enough it would be my young Padawan.

But the better it is, if the bigger you choose.

So You Wanna Be A Playa, But Your Rig's Ain't Fly,
You Gotta Hit Us Up, To Get A Pimped Out Rig,

You've Got To Pimp My Riggggggg...  (DAMN RIGHT)

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1 hour ago, mikedrewsmy said:

Enough it would be my young Padawan.

But the better it is, if the bigger you choose.

Would i have enough power if were to choose this one https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-xc-ultra-gaming-8gb-gddr6-vr-ready-graphics-card-2944-core

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1 hour ago, LukeJ1234 said:

EVGA Rtx 2080 XC 

 

You are giving away 900euros for that piece of shit ? There are some noticeably better deal.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-1080-DUKE-11G/dp/B0722YBZGK/ref=sr_1_45?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1535820308&sr=1-45&keywords=gtx+1080+ti

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650w will be fine. Because of how demanding RT is, i'd stick with the 2080 ti if you are interested, if you get that 2080 you better be fine with playing in 720p XD.

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7 minutes ago, LukeJ1234 said:

Youd still be able to go 2560x1440 would you? 

there are doubts about running 1080p/60fps with RT on with a 2080 ti, so there's legit concern about the performance of the 2080/2070 with RT (i'm serious about 720p/60)

 

Although with RT off i expect the 2080 ti to be able to run 1440p/120hz with ease.

 

Personally i'm waiting for actual benchmarks to see if i want to give RT a try or stick with a 1080 ti for half the price, not messing with the 2080 or the 2070.

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30 minutes ago, LukeJ1234 said:

So if a 2080 ti can do 1440p then why cant a 2080

The only reason you should get the RTX over the 2080 ti given that it is 800usd vs 600usd is Ray Tracing and maybe DLSS, but the 2080ti BARELY does RT at 1080p/60, so I wouldn't get a 2080 or a 2070 atm over a 1080 ti.

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15 hours ago, xg32 said:

The only reason you should get the RTX over the 2080 ti given that it is 800usd vs 600usd is Ray Tracing and maybe DLSS, but the 2080ti BARELY does RT at 1080p/60, so I wouldn't get a 2080 or a 2070 atm over a 1080 ti.

Also i have a gtx 1080 evga ftw 2 at the moment so you wouldn't advise getting a rtx 2080

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4 hours ago, LukeJ1234 said:

Also i have a gtx 1080 evga ftw 2 at the moment so you wouldn't advise getting a rtx 2080

My personal opinion of the 20xx series is to focus on only the 2080 ti, there will be performance issues with Ray Tracing, if you are willing to spend 800 on a 2080, consider the 2080 ti instead. If you are not interested in a 2080 ti, consider a 1080 ti instead.

 

2070/2080 is in a weird spot imho

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20 hours ago, LukeJ1234 said:

So if a 2080 ti can do 1440p then why cant a 2080

RTX cards are pretty much the same as the GTX 10 series cards, the only difference is that they can do a few Ray Tracing stuff that like only Blattlefield V and Shadow of the Tomb Rider will support on the early future, it could end up as a gimmick or not who knows.

 

The thing is if you have a long library of games to play, from this year or older, you'll better off getting a 500$~600ish $ dollars GTX 1080 Ti then a 900$ dollars RTX 2080, performance wise they are the same, aside the Ray Tracing deal.

 

And Ray Tracing tanks performance even on these cards the RTX 2080 Ti flagship can only do 1080p60fps on these titles, with dips here and there... the lower end ones will throw us back to the pre-Full HD era lol

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23 hours ago, EOZ said:

You are giving away 900euros for that piece of shit ? There are some noticeably better deal.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-1080-DUKE-11G/dp/B0722YBZGK/ref=sr_1_45?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1535820308&sr=1-45&keywords=gtx+1080+ti

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44 minutes ago, xg32 said:

My personal opinion of the 20xx series is to focus on only the 2080 ti, there will be performance issues with Ray Tracing, if you are willing to spend 800 on a 2080, consider the 2080 ti instead. If you are not interested in a 2080 ti, consider a 1080 ti instead.

 

2070/2080 is in a weird spot imho

Why is that ? It might be that a 2070 beat a 1080 ti and would cost less $ and would support Ray tracing (bleh) and DLSS (YES)

 

a 2070 is a lot better buy than a1080 ti

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36 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

Why is that ? It might be that a 2070 beat a 1080 ti and would cost less $ and would support Ray tracing (bleh) and DLSS (YES)

 

a 2070 is a lot better buy than a1080 ti

the 2080 ti can barely RT at 1080p, so unless you are willing to play games at 720p, you would have to turn RT off, in which case the 1080 ti would be a way better deal.

 

But i could be biased as i'm personally not interested in mid-range cards atm, so i'm just looking at an additional 1080 ti or a 2080 ti. If i'm getting a 20 series then it has to at least be able to play games in RT at 1080p.

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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 2080 ti can barely RT at 1080p, so unless you are willing to play games at 720p, you would have to turn RT off, in which case the 1080 ti would be a way better deal.

 

But i could be biased as i'm personally not interested in mid-range cards atm, so i'm just looking at an additional 1080 ti or a 2080 ti. If i'm getting a 20 series then it has to at least be able to play games in RT at 1080p.

So if i were to get a 2080ti would a 650w psu be suffiecent for a I7 7700k RTx 2080ti ?

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23 hours ago, LukeJ1234 said:

So if a 2080 ti can do 1440p then why cant a 2080

I have a 1080ti for 1440p, works fine

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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 2080 ti can barely RT at 1080p, so unless you are willing to play games at 720p, you would have to turn RT off, in which case the 1080 ti would be a way better deal.

 

But i could be biased as i'm personally not interested in mid-range cards atm, so i'm just looking at an additional 1080 ti or a 2080 ti. If i'm getting a 20 series then it has to at least be able to play games in RT at 1080p.

Until benchmarks are out, we can't really have any credible advice or accurate build planning. No one is going to spend up to $1,200 on the latest and greatest card to game at 720p... everyone will turn off ray tracing and game like normal.

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25 minutes ago, LukeJ1234 said:

So if i were to get a 2080ti would a 650w psu be suffiecent for a I7 7700k RTx 2080ti ?

Yes, 650w will be okay. Most people like to have over-sized PSU's just as good practice. A whole system with two 1080ti's could pull around 750W, but in that case I would want to have, at minimum, 100W of headroom to spare, so a 750W wouldn't be enough. Assuming the rtx 2080ti has the exact same TDP as a 1080ti, then a 650W will leave plenty of headroom.

 

My system pulls around 250W without my 1080ti and up to just over 500W with it. 

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On 9/1/2018 at 12:18 PM, LukeJ1234 said:

So if a 2080 ti can do 1440p then why cant a 2080

Well 2 things. 

1. We're not sure 2080ti CAN do 1440p with Ray Tracing enabled. We've only really seen it run at 1080p, and it is a non-steady 60fps (fluctuates between 30 and 60). 

2. The 2080 isn't as fast as the 2080ti


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3 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 2080 ti can barely RT at 1080p, so unless you are willing to play games at 720p, you would have to turn RT off, in which case the 1080 ti would be a way better deal.

 

But i could be biased as i'm personally not interested in mid-range cards atm, so i'm just looking at an additional 1080 ti or a 2080 ti. If i'm getting a 20 series then it has to at least be able to play games in RT at 1080p.

How is the 1080 ti a better deal, the 2070 cost less and is suposed to perform better even with RT off so it doesnt matter what is the Ray tracing performance 

 

Doesnt make any sense to buy the older version unless you buy it used at a really good price

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Whether the 2070 is actually cheaper than the 1080 ti depends a lot on the country. Some places have really bad price hikes due to low stock, which would make the 1080 ti better especially if it starts to get a price cut. Right now where I am you can't even get a price for the 2070 yet. But 1080 ti is already getting 10% or more price cut while 2080 pre order is 20% over RRP and getting higher every day.

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