Is a GTX1170 an overkill for 1080P gaming?

[ivanteng880]

Hi, the last post I made was really bad so I'm going repost it. So I want to get an Asus MG248QR 24inch 1080p 144Hz display for my upcoming gaming PC. My pc will have the following spec:

Ryzen 2600X

Gigabyte aorus gaming 7 X470

Corsair veagence Pro RGB ram 16 Gb 2666 cas 15

Gtx 1170

Samsung 960 evo 250Gb

WD Blue 1 TB 7200 rpm

Focus Plus gold 750W

NZXT H700 Case

 

I want to ask this question because the monitor I'm getting is not going to have G-sync (Because it's expensive AF) And I want to GPU to spit out a somewhat consistent FPS, And I will also limit the FPS a little to eliminate stuttering. Do you guys this it will work? (For now assume the GTX1170 like a GTX 1080) Thank you. 

 

 

[Fraser Cow]

If you run at high to ultra you should be over 100FPS still. IMO you should save up for a 1440p Gsync monitor.

[ivanteng880]

Just now, Fraser Cow said:

If you run at high to ultra you should be over 100FPS still. IMO you should save up for a 1440p Gsync monitor.

yeah, it like 600 dollars for the cheapest 1440p g-sync monitor.

 

[ivanteng880]

6 minutes ago, ivanteng880 said:

Hi, the last post I made was really bad so I'm going repost it. So I want to get an Asus MG248QR 24inch 1080p 144Hz display for my upcoming gaming PC. My pc will have the following spec:

Ryzen 2600X

Gigabyte aorus gaming 7 X470

Corsair veagence Pro RGB ram 16 Gb 2666 cas 15

Gtx 1170

Samsung 960 evo 250Gb

WD Blue 1 TB 7200 rpm

Focus Plus gold 750W

NZXT H700 Case

 

I want to ask this question because the monitor I'm getting is not going to have G-sync (Because it's expensive AF) And I want to GPU to spit out a somewhat consistent FPS, And I will also limit the FPS a little to eliminate stuttering. Do you guys this it will work? (For now assume the GTX1170 like a GTX 1080) Thank you. 

 

 

BTW guy, please stop yelling at me for using an AMD CPU and tell me that it's no good for gaming. I do photo editing and I also enjoy watch videos while I game. SO Yeah.

[GeoffLucas]

Assuming it's like a 1080, you'd be fine.

 

Note: We don't know yet, so assuming is probably not a good idea.

[Princess Luna]

Depends really wether you want an ultra/max out fest or not... if you want to get in a game at 1920x1080p and crank every thing on maximum on the latest titles even the GTX 1080 will fail to give you 60fps in some cases.

 

If you're cool adjusting the settings then you could potentially play well even with a GTX 1050 depending how far you're cool tuning down.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, ivanteng880 said:

. I do photo editing and I also enjoy watch videos while I game. SO Yeah.

Intel's better at any photo editing software out there and really watching videos while you game is a stupid reason to favour a CPU over the other as it barely if at all matters.

[Senzelian]

Just now, ivanteng880 said:

BTW guy, please stop yelling at me for using an AMD CPU and tell me that it's no good for gaming. I do photo editing and I also enjoy watch videos while I game. SO Yeah.

No one is yelling at you, lol.

The Ryzen CPUs are a great choice - unless you want to use Photoshop and Lightroom. Those are simply badly optimized for Ryzen.

[GeoffLucas]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Intel's better at any photo editing software out there and really watching videos while you game is a stupid reason to favour a CPU over the other as it barely if at all matters.

Really???  It's better at many, but not all.  And you don't know what the OP is using.  So...

[Princess Luna]

Just now, GeoffLucas said:

Really???  It's better at many, but not all.  And you don't know what the OP is using.  So...

Photo editing really is always going to favour single thread performance since there isn't much to multi-thread on it, the most common editors and even drawing programs are also made usually with Intel instructions on mind like it's way implementation of AVX2 which makes a great deal of difference on Adobe software and has a weaker implementation on AMD processors.

 

Regardless I really don't care to this topic as OP originally was asking whether a GTX 1170 which will be ever so slightly ahead of current GTX 1080... being optimistic... is too much for 1080p and the answer as always is 'depends' on what he is trying to achieve.

 

Max out settings in a lot of games is stupidly demanding even at the 1080p resolution still.

[Beowulff83]

25 minutes ago, ivanteng880 said:

And I want to GPU to spit out a somewhat consistent FPS, And I will also limit the FPS a little to eliminate stuttering. Do you guys this it will work? (For now assume the GTX1170 like a GTX 1080) Thank you. 

No it's not over kill and should work well for you.

[GeoffLucas]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Photo editing really is always going to favour single thread performance since there isn't much to multi-thread on it

I disagree - it depends on the particular process and programs are getting better all the time.  There are benchmarks to demonstrate it.  https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-Multi-Core-Performance-698/  These benchmarks show that many processes benefit from multi-threaded CPUs.  Not all, but even in photo editing, it depends on the OP's actual use cases.

 

16 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

weaker implementation on AMD processors

For AVX2, true enough, AMD is weaker.  Though here it should be noted that much of the gain in Adobe products are due to optimizations specifically for Intel systems for processing AVX2.  If you're not using Adobe products, the performance gains are much less pronounced.  Additionally, these optimizations actually improved the multi-threading capability of their software.

 

23 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Regardless I really don't care to this topic as OP originally was asking whether a GTX 1170 which will be ever so slightly ahead of current GTX 1080... being optimistic... is too much for 1080p and the answer as always is 'depends' on what he is trying to achieve.

True enough.  This is off-topic and we don't yet know the performance of the new cards.

[DarkSmith2]

"GPU overkill" doesnt exist, they are all slow AF. even RTX2080 wont be fast enough for 1080p, need to wait for the Ti to upgrade.

[Jon Jon]

1 hour ago, GeoffLucas said:

I disagree - it depends on the particular process and programs are getting better all the time.  There are benchmarks to demonstrate it.  https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-Multi-Core-Performance-698/  These benchmarks show that many processes benefit from multi-threaded CPUs.  Not all, but even in photo editing, it depends on the OP's actual use cases.

 

For AVX2, true enough, AMD is weaker.  Though here it should be noted that much of the gain in Adobe products are due to optimizations specifically for Intel systems for processing AVX2.  If you're not using Adobe products, the performance gains are much less pronounced.  Additionally, these optimizations actually improved the multi-threading capability of their software.

 

True enough.  This is off-topic and we don't yet know the performance of the new cards.

The Intel / AMD debate over which is better for content creation always resides solely on the application, and unless people are focusing on Adobe Suite, I recommend Ryzen due to the extra compute.

 

However, as I stated in your other thread, an AMD CPU is not going to drive 144hz at 1080P. They just don't do that nearly as well as the Coffee Lake chips do.

 

If you want both, you really should be looking into an i7 8700k and overclocking it to squeeze out as much frames as you can at 1080P.

 

Ryzen really can't compete in high refresh rate gaming.

[SupersonicSaint]

Well, in all honesty for 1080p the GTX 1070 will even do what you want. It's overkill but overkill isn't a crime. However in 2018, Ryzen is better and cheaper than Intel's offerings.

[Jaggsta]

3 hours ago, SupersonicSaint said:

Well, in all honesty for 1080p the GTX 1070 will even do what you want. It's overkill but overkill isn't a crime. However in 2018, Ryzen is better and cheaper than Intel's offerings.

1070 can't hold 144fps that well he not using 60hz monitor Ryzen is slower then i7 8700k in gaming and in october the i7 9700k and i9 9900k will be faster then 8700k for same price.