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So im planning on getting a build, im a newbie but a really passionate pc loving newbie, first time building, first time planning. I planned out the build for a year now. Ive got everything ready, to go out and buy it. Now. Ive got some concerns about the monitor. Since this pc is really high end, and mostly for gaming on 4K. It has a GTX 1080 Ti/GTX 11/2080 (ill wait for the new card but im guessing its the same performance) and im getting a 1440p 120hz or more monitor. The card pushes out more then 70fps on max settings 1440p so people tell me, that i dont need g sync because its not visable at that framerate. You thoughts? Also rate the build, why not? You can give me some critics of your own. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/YourNewPalAlex/saved/G3r6sY

 

 

 

PS i didnt put an ssd because i have one laying around from my laptop.

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10 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

 

Just live with a 1070ti or Vega 56

 

G-sync is always a waste of money, just buy a free-sync version of those displays, they're around $429

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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G-Sync is useless, properly adjust your in game settings to avoid dips.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 hour ago, AskTJ said:

Bad motherboard.

Bad case.

No dual channel ram. (Add another identical stick.)

 

Get a 1070Ti, overclock it and pair it with a 2700X.

 

SSD is a must.

Uve got a better budget mobo that overclocks and is under 70$?

I know its a shit case, i got it because it has all the case fans populated by stock fans so I don't spend more $

Cant do that because i think the mobo is max 2 sticks, so ill save up and when prices fall ill get the same ram so i get dual channel 16GBs.

 

 

Why a 2700X when its the same with a cheap 1700 and it doesnt effect any performance for 4K? Neither does it effect 1440p. 

 

 

Thoughts about the g sync thing?

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13 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

 

CPUs bottleneck refresh rate not resolution. A 2700/X is something like 5-10% faster depending on OCs, likely worth it when you consider how long you'll have the PC. an i7 8700 would be something like 15fps faster for 144hz, not worth it over the R5 2600 though for the same core count.

 

I don't think it's worth getting a cheap everything else just to get a 1080ti, especially with new GPUs being announced on the 20th most likely.

 

Should just live with a $449 GTX 1080, it'll be fine for 1440p 144hz gaming.

Wouldn't waste money on G-sync.

Fractal Focus G is a cheap decent case as well
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzZxr/fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-gy-w
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PNffFt
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PNffFt/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($131.19 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Nixeus - NX-EDG27 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($431.79 @ Amazon)
Total: $1621.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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13 hours ago, Streetguru said:

CPUs bottleneck refresh rate not resolution. A 2700/X is something like 5-10% faster depending on OCs, likely worth it when you consider how long you'll have the PC. an i7 8700 would be something like 15fps faster for 144hz, not worth it over the R5 2600 though for the same core count.

 

I don't think it's worth getting a cheap everything else just to get a 1080ti, especially with new GPUs being announced on the 20th most likely.

 

Should just live with a $449 GTX 1080, it'll be fine for 1440p 144hz gaming.

Wouldn't waste money on G-sync.

Fractal Focus G is a cheap decent case as well
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzZxr/fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-gy-w
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PNffFt
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PNffFt/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($131.19 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Nixeus - NX-EDG27 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($431.79 @ Amazon)
Total: $1621.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Here an r5 2600 is benchmarked at 1440p without oc-ing

And an r7 2700 is displayed. Also stock. The difference is 5-10fps. When you overclock the r5 1600, you will probably get the same performance as the r7 2700. 

 

 

I dont think im cheaping out on everything, trust me id put a pentium there if you said go cheap out on everything.

 

 

I am waiting for the new cards. I will either get the 1180 or the 1080 ti, depenting on whats cheaper.

 

The monitor you provided doesnt have g sync, but is more expensive then 165hz g sync 1440p monitor by dell?

 

 

Id honestly get a deepcool dukase whv2 which is cheaper and looks better imho.

 

Now for the build.

 

Why a 2700? When the 1700 is basically the same but leages cheaper

 

Why an x470 mobo when you can get a B450/B350 and overclock the same, function the same. I dont get it?

 

 

For ram well, for gaming 8GB is enough lets be honest. Id honestly buy 8GBs at the begging then id buy another stick when prices drop.

 

 

Well about the gpu, you can get a gtx 1070 ti, overclock it and get a gtx 1080 for a lower price. But you can oc the 1080 aswell. So yeah. Id have the 1070 ti if it was alot cheaper, if its 50$ then 1080 it is.

 

 

 

The case maaan, why is it so expensive? I understand a p300 or an s340 those are awesome cases. For somewhat cheap. But this? I dont agree on you man, it has to boost performance by 20% so i buy it xD

 

 

Cant say anythin about the psu

 

 

The monitor.... Dude why this one? You can have a cheaper g sync one that's 165 hz and 1440p? I dont get it....if you think g sync isnt worth it then go with a cheaper monitor that doesnt have g sync...the most complained about thing is that its expensive, and you just gave me something that is more expensive and it doesnt even have it... I dont get it.

 

 

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15 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Just live with a 1070ti or Vega 56

 

G-sync is always a waste of money, just buy a free-sync version of those displays, they're around $429

This is cheaper and it has g sync

 

So whats your point?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwgPxr/dell-s2417dg-238-165hz-monitor-s2417dg

 

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18 hours ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

 

24" with a TN panel
 

a comparable 27" IPS G-sync display is $599

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRymbv
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRymbv/by_merchant/

Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($599.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $599.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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6 hours ago, Streetguru said:

24" with a TN panel
 

a comparable 27" IPS G-sync display is $599

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRymbv
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRymbv/by_merchant/

Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($599.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $599.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Does it have to be ips? I thought TN panels were just not colorful, but fast and good for gaming. Also cheap. I know if you look at them at an angle they are bad but if your straight on i dont think you notice the difference.

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7 hours ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

Does it have to be ips? I thought TN panels were just not colorful, but fast and good for gaming. Also cheap. I know if you look at them at an angle they are bad but if your straight on i dont think you notice the difference.

TN is always trash, why live with it when there's a better option at around the same price?

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

TN is always trash, why live with it when there's a better option at around the same price?

600-370=230

 

230$ is 38.3.333% of 600$

 

That is not "around the same price"

 

This might seem rude but it really isnt..

 

 

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8 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

 

The free-sync IPS display is $429 which is around the same price

 

 

On 8/3/2018 at 12:10 PM, Streetguru said:

Monitor: Nixeus - NX-EDG27 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($431.79 @ Amazon)

$431* now  i guess

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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