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30 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

At that point you would have to turn down the settings either way due to lack of sheer performance, so more memory in the long run is kind of meh

14 minutes ago, Nocte said:

For stuff that relies more on VRAM then processing power this is not really true. If you can afford to keep higher textures the game will look better regardless and it almost entirely relies on VRAM. 

Exactly!

 

13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I heard the same 'reasoning for purchase' from GTX 770 4GB and 960 4GB buyers, and I think it will end the same for those using the same logic on 480s and 1060s (between 5gb and 6gb onpy, since 3gb also has a half-shot core): enough VRAM to run future games, yet not enough compute performance.

You should look at GTX 780 vs R9-290.

Look where the 290 is now and how far behind the 780 is.


The 780 fell into the region of the R9-280X/7970GHz, while the GTX680 is about the same performance as Pitcairn (7870). So both are now at the same level of the chip with about the same shaders....

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Forget the RX 570.

 

The RX 480 and GTX 1060 6GB (don’t know about 5GB) are very close. I would get the RX 480 since it has more VRAM and that is good for the reasons that everyone else has already stated. AMD also tend to refine their cards with their driver updates over time as well. It also depends if you already have a monitor that supports adaptive sync, then go for the card that supports your monitors adaptive sync.

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2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Exactly!

 

You should look at GTX 780 vs R9-290.

Look where the 290 is now and how far behind the 780 is.


The 780 fell into the region of the R9-280X/7970GHz, while the GTX680 is about the same performance as Pitcairn (7870). So both are now at the same level of the chip with about the same shaders....

Two different architectures, cant compare.

 

In fact you should check R9 290X 4gb vs 390X 8GB vids. Next to no difference

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Two different architectures, cant compare.

 

In fact you should check R9 290X 4gb vs 390X 8GB vids. Next to no difference

Depends on the Game, the Textures and so on.

 

WIth more modern Games things look different.

And there aren't many 290x vs. 390X out there right now. But there are 480/580 and 570 with 4GiB out there.

And in some cases it makes a difference. But only when you have the right textures...

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1. If you have a freesync monitor, go for 480/570. If you have gsync, go for 1060.

 

2. If your monitor doesn't have freesync or gsync, and aren't going to upgrade to either of these two, pick the cheaper card.

 

1060 6gb trade blows with 580, but I'm not sure about the 5gb variant. Personally, I would pick 1060 6gb because it's a lot cheaper than 580 in my place.

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5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

this statement leaves much debate. It depends too much on the games used in comparison for a fair judgement. I'd still call the RX 480 and normal 1060 (6GB variant) equal.

 

Actually there is a Chinese review for the 5gb card available in Youtube (more in bilibili, but youtube is more common I guess)

 

The conclusion is that 1060 5gb at stock sometimes get beaten by the 1060 3gb, sometimes the other way around, depends on the game. However, if OP's lucky enough to get a card with very overclockable memory, then 1060 5gb can leave the 1060 3gb in the dust and catch up with the 1060 6gb. Of course overclocking isnt guaranteed so it shouldnt be a deciding factor. What doesnt change though is that 1060 5gb < 1060 6gb (tada?) = RX 480 8GB. That's why I still prefer the 480 if other factors cant solve the matter.

where is it I cant find it in OP's post

 

RX480 also has 8GB

Watched that review, 

They said that there are almost no differences between 5G and 6G.

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1 minute ago, HKRyan_ said:

I have no freesync neither G-sync monitors... 

So I want some advices... 

Get the Radeon

Because Freesync Monitors are cheap. You can get them for like 100€ or maybe less.

 

If you have a cheapish Monitor, maybe you already have one but don't know it....

And there's also a hack available as well to do that with not really supported devices.

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53 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

that's an oppinion, not a fact.

You’re right. 

In my opinion and perceived experience, NVIDIA’s drivers and software work better. 

Games like battlefront 2 2005 work on nvidia but not modern amd. 

Amd sometimes has trouble keeping a consistent frame rate with relive’s replay and nvidia in my experience hasn’t had as many corrupted files. It could be just my cards but that’s how I’ve had things go for me. 

 

Edit:

also amd relive has had several audio sync issues & the overlay doesn’t appear in every game. 

Also i like nvidias graphics presets with GeForce experience more than AMD’s version 

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An RX 480/580 8GB and a GTX 1060 6GB are both neck and neck really.


Sometimes, people get wrapped around the axle a bit with benchmarks and future proofing.

 

Fact is, the compute on both cards will probably overstay their welcome before the VRAM on either card becomes too little.

 

I honestly feel the same with 4GB, unless you are gaming at super high resolutions. Fact is, these cards at best are 1440P medium settings cards.

 

Buy for the monitor and applications you need.

 

I went with an RX 580 since I already had invested in a Freesync monitor and AMD tends to have better driver support for Oculus. I also got the 8GB model because I got burned previously by getting the 2GB R9 380 over the 4GB, which made DOOM unplayable.

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whichever is cheaper and/or offers better performance

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4 hours ago, HKRyan_ said:

I don't have any freesync or G-sync monitors... 

So I want some advices... 

then it's the RX 480. Both have enough VRAM imo, but Freesync is easier to get into. Forget Gsync, it's priced so high, only high end card users can afford it. I'm not sure why they bother make the 1050s and 1060s support Gsync at all.

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