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How much will a Pentium E5800 bottle neck a 750 Ti in games?

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Just wondering cause I've got a 750 ti in shipping that I'm about to put into an Optiplex with an E5800.

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19 minutes ago, Mio85 said:

Looks like a pretty decent bottleneck.

Isn't that a 5300 not a 5800?

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3 minutes ago, Mio85 said:

My bad

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-E5800-vs-Intel-Pentium-E5200/m3092vsm1599

But they seem to have very similar performance. With the e5800 you might see a little better fps.

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After a small bit of research, I’ve come to the conclusion that yes, there would be a significant bottleneck, specially in relatively recent games like Battlefield 4, but if that’s all you’ve got, I’d say go for it and see if you can get a core2quad Q6600, which will be cheap since it is compatible with the same motherboard, but it’ll be enough to alleviate the bottleneck thank to its four cores. 

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19 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Just wondering cause I've got a 750 ti in shipping that I'm about to put into an Optiplex with an E5800.

If you can get your hands on a Q6600, do the tape mod and your bottleneck woes will be over.

 

 

Source: my Optiplex 755 SFF that's got a Q6600 tape modded and a low-profile 750 Ti installed.

 

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1 minute ago, ElZamo92 said:

After a small bit of research, I’ve come to the conclusion that yes, there would be a significant bottleneck, specially in relatively recent games like Battlefield 4, but if that’s all you’ve got, I’d say go for it and see if you can get a core2quad Q6600, which will be cheap since it is compatible with the same motherboard, but it’ll be enough to alleviate the bottleneck thank to its four cores. 

I really won't be doing anything past CS:GO, Fortnite, and some light emulation. Would I still need to get something with more cores?

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8 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

maybe look into 2400G and see how they act gt-1030 ish area

upgrade

yeah but that isn't really an option for me right now. I do have a Core i5-4440 lying around that I'll put into something. Until I get the money for a motherboard for that, I'm stuck with this optiplex

 

6 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

A lot.

Even in fairly light games like CS:GO and Fortnite?

 

9 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

If you can get your hands on a Q6600, do the tape mod and your bottleneck woes will be over.

Source: my Optiplex 755 SFF that's got a Q6600 tape modded and a low-profile 750 Ti installed.

Whats this tape mod?

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6 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Even in fairly light games like CS:GO and Fortnite?

You won't even get 60 fps avg in csgo.

 

5 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Whats this tape mod?

 

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5 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Whats this tape mod?

Tape mod is where you have a socket 775 CPU and buy a sticker off eBay and cover 4 pins so it works in a socket 771 CPU. It's cheap and works great.

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2Pcs-LGA-771-to-775-Adapter-Sticker-XEON-CPU-Mod-Quad-Dual-Core-Pin-Modification/112659575853?epid=934159142&hash=item1a3b08b42d:g:JsMAAOSwdIFX0orE

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6 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Whats this tape mod?

Lots of guides online for it. Basically, you take two tiny slits of electrical tape and cover two of the contacts on the back of the CPU. This makes the motherboard think the FSB is 1333MHz instead of 1066MHz, bringing your Q6600 up to a clock speed of 3.0GHz. Easiest overclock ever.

 

5 minutes ago, Mio85 said:

You won't even get 60 fps avg in csgo.

Yes, you will. Been there, done that.

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5 minutes ago, Mio85 said:

You won't even get 60 fps avg in csgo.

He isn't using an external capture card. Its being put on the dual core CPU, I'd say it would look a little different if he wasnt running OBS.

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3 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Lots of guides online for it. Basically, you take two tiny slits of electrical tape and cover two of the contacts on the back of the CPU. This makes the motherboard think the FSB is 1333MHz instead of 1066MHz, bringing your Q6600 up to a clock speed of 3.0GHz. Easiest overclock ever.

Sooo what you're saying is:

1. Swap E5800 in my Optiplex 380 for a Q6600

2. Overclock it by putting electrical tape on it

3. ???

4. Profit?

 

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1 minute ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Sooo what you're saying is:

1. Swap E5800 in my Optiplex 380 for a Q6600

2. Overclock it by putting electrical tape on it

3. ???

4. Profit?

 

Yeah, pretty much. Vastly more power than a dual core Pentium.

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10 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

Tape mod is where you have a socket 775 CPU and buy a sticker off eBay and cover 4 pins so it works in a socket 771 CPU. It's cheap and works great.

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2Pcs-LGA-771-to-775-Adapter-Sticker-XEON-CPU-Mod-Quad-Dual-Core-Pin-Modification/112659575853?epid=934159142&hash=item1a3b08b42d:g:JsMAAOSwdIFX0orE

and it can also be used to overclock a CPU?

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7 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

Sooo what you're saying is:

1. Swap E5800 in my Optiplex 380 for a Q6600

2. Overclock it by putting electrical tape on it

3. ???

4. Profit?

 

That's the cheapest way. Q6600 @ 3.0GHz is a pretty good pair with the 750 ti.

 

4 minutes ago, DarkFireGuy said:

and it can also be used to overclock a CPU?

No. You only need electrical tape for the BSEL mod.

 

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5 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Yeah, pretty much. Vastly more power than a dual core Pentium.

What's a good price for a Q6600? And since you've practically got the same optiplex config, will the PSU be able to handle the Q6600 + 750 Ti?

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21 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

maybe look into 2400G and see how they act gt-1030 ish area

upgrade

that 750Ti is still better than the 2400 igpu and the 1030

 

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Just now, Pasi123 said:

That's the cheapest way. Q6600 @ 3.0GHz is a pretty good pair with the 750 ti.

 

No. You only need electrical tape for the BSEL mod.

 

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In this video:

he uses two pieces of electrical tape. What's the difference?

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1 minute ago, aezakmi said:

that 750Ti is still better than the 2400 igpu and the 1030

 

OP should get a new CPU

As per @aisle9's suggestion. I'll get a Q6600 and tape mod to 3 gigahertz.

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