4k on Youtube

[Dufus]

I'm not exactly sure of which hub or forum to discuss this on so I thought here would be a decent start. I'm wondering how far technology has gotten on YouTube in 4k. I watched a video that was published on YouTube in 2015 explaining how watching 4k videos on YouTube has issues. He explained that it doesn't play properly and that it kind of lags across the screen from left to right. My question is, do 4k videos still do this on YouTube? Or has the past 3 years caught up with technology and somehow fixed these issues.

 

I ask this because I'm thinking of buying a 4k monitor soon and watching game play in 4k really interests me. I also want to play old games(from the early to mid 2000's) or less demanding indie games(like Guns Gore and Cannoli or possibly Rocket League) in 4k because my i5/GTX 1060 3GB is not powerful enough to achieve 4k/60 in newer or more demanding titles.

[Crunchy Dragon]

On my laptop, I can't run 4K at alll on YouTube without the video practically not playing while audio continues as normal.

 

I would assume 4K viewing on YouTube has gotten better, I doubt it would have just stayed the same for 3 years.

[Dufus]

@Crunchy Dragon Thank you for the quick reply. Is your laptop 4k? How fast is your internet speed? I think 4k viewing on Youtube has gotten better also but I'm wondering how it is from people with 4k monitors.

[Orangeator]

4k youtube requires a pretty powerful/recent CPU. That's really it. My Ryzen 5 1600 runs 4k@60 youtube just fine. No dropped frames.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Dufus said:

@Crunchy Dragon Thank you for the quick reply. Is your laptop 4k? How fast is your internet speed? I think 4k viewing on Youtube has gotten better also but I'm wondering how it is from people with 4k monitors.

The problems with 4K on my laptop is due to a hardware limitation, I have a GT 540M in this thing. Internet was fine at the time, but my WLAN adapter is going downhill.

 

I don't have a 4K monitor, but I'll give it a try on my GTX 780-powered desktop.

[Crunchy Dragon]

5 minutes ago, Dufus said:

@Crunchy Dragon Thank you for the quick reply. Is your laptop 4k? How fast is your internet speed? I think 4k viewing on Youtube has gotten better also but I'm wondering how it is from people with 4k monitors.

4K YouTube on my desktop is good, no problems whatsoever.

 

Again, I don't have a 4K monitor but I was playing it at YouTube's normal video size(not fullscreen) so it should run in 4K instead of capping at 1080p.

[Ashiella]

3 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

The problems with 4K on my laptop is due to a hardware limitation, I have a GT 540M in this thing. Internet was fine at the time, but my WLAN adapter is going downhill.

 

I don't have a 4K monitor, but I'll give it a try on my GTX 780-powered desktop.

Youtube primarily slams the CPU and lesser on the GPU. My r7 1700 @3.9ghz and 780ti, My 1700 will get like 70% usage and 780ti about 20-25% if that.

 

7 minutes ago, Dufus said:

@Crunchy Dragon Thank you for the quick reply. Is your laptop 4k? How fast is your internet speed? I think 4k viewing on Youtube has gotten better also but I'm wondering how it is from people with 4k monitors.

As far as internet speed: 

It's suggested to have at least a 20mbps connection. Some videos are 21.2mbps, so I'd recommend 30mbps+

[Dufus]

@OrangeatorIf your Ryzen 5 1600 runs YouTube in 4k/60 just fine, then I would think my i5-6400 would do the same. Do you by chance play older games/less demanding indie games in 4k on that Ryzen 5? And if so, do they run well? Do they even support 4k resolution? Have you tried editing the config ini's to support 4k resolution?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Dufus said:

If your Ryzen 5 1600 runs YouTube in 4k/60 just fine, then I would think my i5-6400 would do the same.

I doubt this, the Ryzen 5 1600 is a much better CPU than the i5-6400.

[Ashiella]

Just now, Dufus said:

@OrangeatorIf your Ryzen 5 1600 runs YouTube in 4k/60 just fine, then I would think my i5-6400 would do the same. Do you by chance play older games/less demanding indie games in 4k on that Ryzen 5? And if so, do they run well? Do they even support 4k resolution? Have you tried editing the config ini's to support 4k resolution?

I had a 3570k @4.8ghz (which about 25% faster than your cpu), and it lagged at 4k pretty decently, you can try it yourself.

As for games on 4k, its the completely opposite of youtube and you could grab a celeron (okay maybe not that slow) if you have a 1080ti

[Enderman]

Works fine for me.

If you have issues with 4k either you hardware isn't powerful enough, your download speed isn't high enough, or there is something screwed up in the software of your computer.

[Dufus]

@Crunchy DragonOh you're right, I didn't realize the Ryzen 5 1600 had 6 cores and 12 threads. And that thing is cheaper than an i5-6400. What's the equivalent of the Ryzen 5 1600 on the Intel team? I need to upgrade to something similar to that thing.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Dufus said:

@Crunchy DragonOh you're right, I didn't realize the Ryzen 5 1600 had 6 cores and 12 threads. And that thing is cheaper than an i5-6400. What's the equivalent of the Ryzen 5 1600 on the Intel team? I need to upgrade to something similar to that thing.

In terms of performance, the Core i5-8400 if I recall correctly.

 

EDIT: I would honestly recommend the 1600 or second-gen 2600, both are excellent CPUs.

[Dufus]

@Crunchy DragonYes, the i5-8400. That would be perfect. While I would like to go with the 1600 or 2nd-gen 2600, unfortunately my motherboard only supports Intel CPU's. 

[Dufus]

@AshiellaWell my internet speed is around 54 mbps so I'm good there. Not sure how my i5-6400 would handle it though. As for games, I own a GTX 1060 3GB. I'm wondering how it will handle much older games in 4k and less demanding indie games.

[Dufus]

@EndermanYouTube works for you in 4k because you own an i7-4790k. That's much better than my CPU. My internet speed is fine. How do you think my i5-6400 CPU paired with a GTX 1060 3GB would handle 4k on YouTube?

[Enderman]

6 minutes ago, Dufus said:

@EndermanYouTube works for you in 4k because you own an i7-4790k. That's much better than my CPU. My internet speed is fine. How do you think my i5-6400 CPU paired with a GTX 1060 3GB would handle 4k on YouTube?

It should be fine for you too.

[Ashiella]

19 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It should be fine for you too.

It lagged on a 3570k @4.8ghz, so im not entirely sure.

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

It lagged on a 3570k @4.8ghz, so im not entirely sure.

Probably some issue with your os/software if an i5 can't handle it.

[Ashiella]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Probably some issue with your os/software if an i5 can't handle it.

Windows 10 on Chrome = some issues

[WereCat]

I can watch YT 4k 30/60FPS just fine with i7 4770k 4.6GHz.

8k 30FPS is also doable buuut, depends on how far is the bitrate cranked up. Most 8k 30FPS videos run fine but my CPU is pinned at 90%-100% during the playback.

With very high bitrates I do encounter stutter from time to time.

8k 60FPS... nope. RIP 4770k.

 

But I can download the video and accelerate the playback trough VLC with the help of my GPU, then my CPU is at around 20%-30% and GPU at around 10%-20% but I get smooth playback.

[Dufus]

@Enderman @AshiellaWell on my 1080p monitor I'm watching 4k video on YouTube right now(why I didn't think of this before, I have no clue), and my CPU is hovering around 90-92% when I'm in fullscreen. I also see stuttering while I'm watching it. I'm pretty sure if I upgrade to a 4k monitor it's gonna do the same thing, if not worse. This could quite possibly be the deal breaker in upgrading to a 4k monitor for me. Watching 4k on YouTube is like the main reason I want a 4k monitor.

[Enderman]

15 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

Windows 10 on Chrome = some issues

4k youtube works perfectly fine on my two core 4 thread i5 laptop with no GPU.

Windows 10 and chrome.

No stuttering, lag, tearing, or buffering.

Average 30-60% CPU usage.

 

As I said earlier, you probably have some issues with your computer, maybe you should clean install.

[Dufus]

@WereCat

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But I can download the video and accelerate the playback trough VLC with the help of my GPU, then my CPU is at around 20%-30% and GPU at around 10%-20% but I get smooth playback.

This sounds interesting. Being able to play 4k movies on VLC using less CPU sounds really good.

[Dufus]

@EndermanI recently clean installed my PC a few months ago. I do a lot of routine maintenance as well. I think there's some type of fix for this issue if you think my i5-6400 CPU can handle 4k video on YouTube. Something like turning off hardware acceleration in Chromes settings or something. I'm pretty sure that's not the issue but something of that nature is what I think is the issue.