AMD or Intel CPU

[harry161]

Right now in May of 2018 when it comes to gaming which is better: AMD or Intel cpu? Dollar for dollar. 

[Vandorlot]

Whats your budget? for low end amd is very competitive with their ryzen 2200g and 2400g. For mid range 200 ish they are pretty close but intel beats amd when it comes to strictly gaming. For high end 8700 is best. For enthusiast level amd is much better than intel with thread ripper 1950x.

[aisle9]

7 minutes ago, harry161 said:

Right now in May of 2018 when it comes to gaming which is better: AMD or Intel cpu? Dollar for dollar. 

Depends on the game.

[harry161]

Vandorlot my budget is about $3000. 

[Vandorlot]

1 minute ago, harry161 said:

Vandorlot my budget is about $3000. 

3000 total? Also what games, what resolution and refresh rate. Also instead of picking piece individually like 1 post for cpu post one thing in new builds and planning.

[RAM555789]

At 1080p resolution intel wins, going into 1440p and 4k, it's going to draw even so AMD will pull ahead then as the GPU becomes the bottleneck.

[Streetguru]

35 minutes ago, harry161 said:

Right now in May of 2018 when it comes to gaming which is better: AMD or Intel cpu? Dollar for dollar. 

Do you have $3k to spend right now on a PC?

For the most part I'd go with either an R7 2700X or 1950X , more cores are more fun.

[harry161]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Do you have $3k to spend right now on a PC?

For the most part I'd go with either an R7 2700X or 1950X , more cores are more fun.

Ya I'm wanting to build a system with a $3g budget. Thought i wanted a Ryzen now I'm not sure what i want. I have no love towards either brand so it really doesn't matter to me. I just want the best gaming pc for my money. 

 

[bellabichon]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

more cores are more fun.

Not necessarily. Even with the release of Ryzen 2, Intel still is the champion in gaming. Sure, if you're doing other stuff, like productivity tasks, or using some games that benefit from 8+ cores, AMD is definitely for you. However, most games rely on powerful single-core performance. For just pure gaming, i'd go with the 8700K.

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, harry161 said:

 

 

8 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

 

If you want the absolute best 144hz gaming go for coffee lake

But the extra 2 cores, soldered IHS, and StoreMI make ryzen the better platform overall IMO.

included an overkill SSD could add a hard drive, you don't need to go near $3000 for a gaming PC

 

Monitor options are $399 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display, or a 4k 60hz IPS free-sync display of some kind. Better to just get a 1070ti for now rather than overpaying for a 1080ti when new GPUs are coming.

If you need to do more than just gaming grab a 1950X
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cd8H29
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cd8H29/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - Liqmax II 240 96.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($79.34 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($140.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($152.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($167.72 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB DUKE Video Card  ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase MC500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($82.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1534.48
 

 

[Princess Luna]

50 minutes ago, harry161 said:

Vandorlot my budget is about $3000. 

Oh you should totally get an i7 8700K then you clearly can afford the best

[App4that]

For gaming you want a 8700k, for a workstation 2700X. 

[Princess Luna]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($346.96 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING (WI-FI AC) Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($184.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($194.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: NVIDIA - Titan Xp 12GB Video Card  ($1200.00)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase Pro 3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2525.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-10 21:56 EDT-0400

 

Now this would look sexy, Xp just cuz pcpp still shows 1080 Ti's all around the same price point so w/e

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, harry161 said:

Vandorlot my budget is about $3000. 

As of today, this is how i would spend 3000$ on a fantastic gaming computer:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($346.96 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($149.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($177.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.15 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($999.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2687.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-10 22:05 EDT-0400

[DarkSmith2]

For gaming Intel. Alot faster, if you buy Ryzen you'll have the same situation that people had when they bought a FX-Series CPU instead of Sandybridge.

Graphics Cards are getting faster, GAP will get bigger, most people just dont seem to realize.

 

2700x -> bottlenecking gtx1080ti

8700k+OC -> 20%+ headroom for something faster than a 1080ti.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[epsilon84]

I don't understand how anything other than a 8700K should be a consideration for a $3000 gaming build.

 

All this talk of Ryzen and Threadripper is bad advice because you are advising the purchase of a CPU that is clearly inferior for GAMING. 

 

No, 8, 12, 16 or even 100 cores won't help you when games rely more on IPC and clockspeeds than huge amount of cores / threads.

 

 

[Princess Luna]

4 hours ago, epsilon84 said:

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But... but... but... soldered IHS....!

[epsilon84]

36 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

But... but... but... soldered IHS....!

And MOAR CORES!!  And... an upgrade path until 2020! But they forget to mention that it  might actually take until 2020 for AMD to catch up to Intel 2018 gaming... I'm not even joking on that one. 

 

It's like a pattern, every single gaming thread you'll find someone recommending a Ryzen setup because they simply have a bias towards AMD rather than actually looking at the OPs situation and budget and recommending the best performing part for their needs. Instead, you'll find every excuse under the sun why Ryzen is 'better' for a gaming system, including 'moarrrr cores = moarrrr fun'

[i_build_nanosuits]

8 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

For gaming Intel. Alot faster, if you buy Ryzen you'll have the same situation that people had when they bought a FX-Series CPU instead of Sandybridge.

Graphics Cards are getting faster, GAP will get bigger, most people just dont seem to realize.

 

2700x -> bottlenecking gtx1080ti

8700k+OC -> 20%+ headroom for something faster than a 1080ti.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

5 hours ago, epsilon84 said:

I don't understand how anything other than a 8700K should be a consideration for a $3000 gaming build.

All this talk of Ryzen and Threadripper is bad advice because you are advising the purchase of a CPU that is clearly inferior for GAMING.

No, 8, 12, 16 or even 100 cores won't help you when games rely more on IPC and clockspeeds than huge amount of cores / threads.

exactly, i tought i was the only one thinking like that...