Nine Inch Nails to fight ticket bots by not selling tickets online

[Xanthe_2871]

5 hours ago, dizmo said:

You say that, but reselling tickets is actually incredibly lucrative. That's why there's companies that do that exclusively. It's not just individuals going out and reselling tickets.

I don't think people actually camp outside of a restaurant for that long for $200. For $1,000, or $1,500 off? Sure. You also have to consider the fact that not everyone can get extra hours at the job the work at, or might not have the ability to get a second job.

 

They have the three days to sit and camp out... Sure everyone's situation is different but I'd imagine most, even in the relatively small group of people who do this, could do whatever they did to free up that time more frequently and work another job. Maybe they justify to themselves that it's fun, it's not about the money, but I still don't understand it.

 

That's crazy. How much do they typically make?

[Bsmith]

50 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

should the ticket system be designed that an entrance proof is only pegged to the original buyer? (e.g. you need a ticket and an ID (/active app) that is hopefully pegged to the ticket to enter?)

That is something which is already a thing in some countries(the Uk and Netherlands so far I'm aware) and depending on the organizer/venue there might even be a separate market place for people that have to sell their tickets for whatever reason, with a set limit on the max price(~10% max above original price) while keeping everything bound to a persons Identification Card/passport, other organizations use the ID/passport verification, but don't allow them to be sold at all against scalpers, not even a managed market place.

[TetraSky]

Sales on the day of the event, in person? Hell no.

If I want to buy a ticket, I ain't standing in line when the possibility exist that there isn't any good tickets left. Nor am I camping out 3 days prior to buy a fucking ticket like some people(the ones who will be reselling them) are likely to do.
There's a damn good reason why online ticket sales took off like it did, because you don't need to wait in a god damn line for who knows how long and still get shit tickets that places you all the way in the back and the artists look like ants. Might as well just watch the damn thing on TV/DVD/BD at that point.

[dizmo]

17 hours ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

They have the three days to sit and camp out... Sure everyone's situation is different but I'd imagine most, even in the relatively small group of people who do this, could do whatever they did to free up that time more frequently and work another job. Maybe they justify to themselves that it's fun, it's not about the money, but I still don't understand it.

 

That's crazy. How much do they typically make?

I don't know why you seem so stuck on this three day time frame. Most people just wait a few hours before the ticket booth opens. 

 

The company my friend worked for made millions of dollars a year. 

[Xanthe_2871]

19 hours ago, dizmo said:

I don't know why you seem so stuck on this three day time frame. Most people just wait a few hours before the ticket booth opens. 

 

The company my friend worked for made millions of dollars a year. 

Maybe they should switch to a DNA based ticketing system! 

[Misanthrope]

On 5/10/2018 at 12:51 PM, Lathlaer said:

They could've gone for similar system as Ticketmaster for various shows ("Hamilton" in the UK included) - you "buy" the ticket online but you technically don't get one until you show up at the venue with printed confirmation copy, some kind of ID and the same credit card that was used to purchase the tickets. Then they swipe your credit card again at the entrance and your tickets are printed on the spot while you enter. 

 

Not foolproof because the human element can fail but still it's quite secure AND you are guaranteed to get a ticket if you bought online.

That works, but might be too expensive to expect it on every venue they tour on. Yes even a band like NIN probably doesn't plays full football stadiums every night and telling venues they have to implement that system is basically inviting even worst fuck ups.

 

Then again I might be grossly underestimating NIN popularity here and perhaps they would be big enough for this system, but well as a more long-term solution I think this issue stands.

[Teddy07]

LOL

Good luck with that stupid strategy. I am supposed to wait in line and possibly don´t get any or crappy tickets. Hell no, not even for my favorite band

[Lathlaer]

On 14.05.2018 at 3:25 AM, Misanthrope said:

That works, but might be too expensive to expect it on every venue they tour on. Yes even a band like NIN probably doesn't plays full football stadiums every night and telling venues they have to implement that system is basically inviting even worst fuck ups.

 

Then again I might be grossly underestimating NIN popularity here and perhaps they would be big enough for this system, but well as a more long-term solution I think this issue stands.

True it all depends on the circumstances - the main reason being how fast the tickets sell. When new batch of Hamilton tickets launched in London people were creating support groups on fb just to be able to buy them the minute online sales start.

 

When I got mine, I made a whole week trip to London out of the event and although it's a fantastic city, there is no way I would fly there and book a hotel if I didn't know my tickets were a sure thing