Solved: Where to Port Forward

[AoGeko]

I currently installed a dual wan router into my network and I am no longer able to properly open ports for specific software i need open. 

 

I put the port info in the dual wan but for the forwarding IP address it is a specific computer i want the port open for and when i put in the IP for that system it says not able to becuase it is on 192.168.1.x while dual wan is 192.168.0.1.

 

What am i doing wrong. The ony solution i believe is to connect the server/system directly to the dual wan which will give the server a 192.168.0.x IP

 

Thoughts?

Edited May 10, 2018 by AoGeko
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[panther420]

5 minutes ago, AoGeko said:

I currently installed a dual wan router into my network and I am no longer able to properly open ports for specific software i need open. 

 

I put the port info in the dual wan but for the forwarding IP address it is a specific computer i want the port open for and when i put in the IP for that system it says not able to becuase it is on 192.168.1.x while dual wan is 192.168.0.1.

 

What am i doing wrong. The ony solution i believe is to connect the server/system directly to the dual wan which will give the server a 192.168.0.x IP

 

Thoughts?

Seems like your server is on a different subnet. Is it connected to a managed switch or something? you might be able to change the subnet there.

[NelizMastr]

WAN ports aren't for connecting your individual LAN subnets, they're for connecting incoming internet lines from multiple ISPs. You forward traffic WAN > LAN so from the internet to a locally connected computer/server. 

 

It should be like this: 

 

ISP Modem > Router's WAN port > LAN clients

[panther420]

Just now, NelizMastr said:

WAN ports aren't for connecting your individual LAN subnets, they're for connecting incoming internet lines from multiple ISPs. You forward traffic WAN > LAN so from the internet to a locally connected computer/server. 

I don't think that's what he's asking. He just wants to forward his LAN server to the Internet (WAN). Seems like he can't do it because it's on a different subnet.

[Tabs]

8 minutes ago, AoGeko said:

I currently installed a dual wan router into my network and I am no longer able to properly open ports for specific software i need open. 

 

I put the port info in the dual wan but for the forwarding IP address it is a specific computer i want the port open for and when i put in the IP for that system it says not able to becuase it is on 192.168.1.x while dual wan is 192.168.0.1.

 

What am i doing wrong. The ony solution i believe is to connect the server/system directly to the dual wan which will give the server a 192.168.0.x IP

 

Thoughts?

 

Forward the port on your internet facing router to a port on the wan ip of the other one, and then forward that port on that router to the actual machine on your network.

 

2 minutes ago, panther420 said:

Seems like your server is on a different subnet. Is it connected to a managed switch or something? you might be able to change the subnet there.

 

He has two actual routers, on different subnets.

 

Edit: At least, thats how I read it. It's very ambiguous.

Edited May 9, 2018 by Tabs

[NelizMastr]

3 minutes ago, Tabs said:

 

He has two actual routers, on different subnets.

Couldn't decipher the post enough to see that. Makes sense.

[panther420]

5 minutes ago, Tabs said:

 

Forward the port on your internet facing router to a port on the wan ip of the other one, and then forward that port on that router to the actual machine on your network.

 

 

He has two actual routers, on different subnets.

 

Edit: At least, thats how I read it. It's very ambiguous.

Yeah, if his computer and dual wan router are on different subnets then he must have either another router that his server is connected to or a managed switch. IDK, can you change the subnet of a router or managed switch to be the same as the rest of your network?

[williamcll]

Check your routers and see which one is connected to the modem, the one that is not connected to the modem should have its DHCP turned off OR BETTER YET run on AP mode if it has such as function.

[Mikensan]

What model is your dual wan router, and what is your dual wan setup? Single IP via BGP, load balancing / HA between?

[AoGeko]

Ok i was reading all your replies and let me attempt to tackle them here.

 

Dual WAN is TP-Link SafeStream TL-R470T+ 

I used the Load Balancing feature to connect 2 separate ISP to the DUAL WAN

 

Heres an illustration of the network

 

 

[AoGeko]

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[ltguy]

30 minutes ago, AoGeko said:

Ok i was reading all your replies and let me attempt to tackle them here.

 

Dual WAN is TP-Link SafeStream TL-R470T+ 

I used the Load Balancing feature to connect 2 separate ISP to the DUAL WAN

 

Heres an illustration of the network

 

 

The tp-link device is a router and you have that connected to yet another router. Looks like your double natted. Port forwarding isnt going to go so well.

[AoGeko]

Just now, ltguy said:

The tp-link device is a router and you have that connected to yet another router. Looks like your double natted. Port forwarding isnt going to go so well.

So i should use the DUAL WAN to replace the existing router instead of adding it to the network? Im using the router strictly for wifi which the DUAL WAN isnt capable of doing. So i could switch the router into AP mode connect it to the unmanaged switch and connect the unmanaged switch to the dual wan instead?

[ltguy]

1 minute ago, AoGeko said:

So i should use the DUAL WAN to replace the existing router instead of adding it to the network? Im using the router strictly for wifi which the DUAL WAN isnt capable of doing. So i could switch the router into AP mode connect it to the unmanaged switch and connect the unmanaged switch to the dual wan instead?

That sounds like a workable plan.

[williamcll]

If you turn off DHCP or set the router to AP mode then all devices' IP will be addressed by the DUAL WAN, all your devices will be within the 192.168.0.x address.

[Mikensan]

You have 2 firewalls pictured before the ISP modems - are you in control of these devices?

[AoGeko]

25 minutes ago, Mikensan said:

You have 2 firewalls pictured before the ISP modems - are you in control of these devices?

no

[AoGeko]

On 5/9/2018 at 12:19 PM, ltguy said:

That sounds like a workable plan.

This worked nearly perfectly. I suppose i didnt assume that the DUAL WAN also waorked as a router. I was indeed doubed NAT'ed. I say 'nearly' perfect becuase the poe switch is actually managed which took me by surprise mainly becuase when i was first configuring it I had no access to a control panel and there as no ip address available for the switch at the time. Once i connected the switch directly to the DUAL WAN it populated an IP address for it as well and I had to turn off DHCP for the switch. After putting the port info into the DUAL WAN everything started working great.

 

Quick Question: If i were to disable the DHCP settings from the router would it have worked that way as well?

 

P.S. 

I am now using the router as an AP as i said I was going to do.