2600x vs 8600k

[Alissa]

i shall be mostly gaming but i might be listen to music,while i play, and video editing. 8600k beats 2600x in gaming, but for editing idk.....(mostly gaming vids and some warps tabilizer)... but i also want to use audodesk inventor and maya

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Alissa said:

i shall be mostly gaming but i might be listen to music,while i play, and video editing. 8600k beats 2600x in gaming, but for editing idk.....(mostly gaming vids and some warps tabilizer)... but i also want to use audodesk inventor and maya

I would grab the 8600k, but that's just me, you really can't go wrong with either.

[Alissa]

Thanks, i really was thinking of the 8600k but the x470 mobo i plan to get if i go for the 2600x has much more features for the same price.... so it really hard to choose.

 

[djw191]

I'd argue for the 2600x because you can overclock it with a motherboard as cheap as 60 USD, whereas you're looking at at least 100 USD for the 8600k.  Although, if you're willing to pay 60 more for the 8600k, it will be up to 20% faster when overclocked than the 2600x when overclocked.  You just have to decide if 20% is worth 60 dollars to you.

[Alissa]

pounds* i live in uk.

 

[Jumper118]

what gpu are you paring with it and what typre of games do you play and at what refresh rate?

 

if you play high fps shooters or something like that at 1080/1440p 120hz+ then the intel will be better right now. 

 

if you are playing on a 60-100hz at 1080-4K then the amd cpu will be slower but the % is very minimal so you might as well get the 2600X for the extra threads when multi tasking and using heavy programs that make use of them.

 

Another thing to consider is the upgrade path. in say 2-3 years when you want a faster cpu the 8700k will be the only option on z370, where as on x470 you have 2700x and 3000 series and possibly 4000 series cpus with even faster clocks, more ipc etc.... 

[App4that]

34 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

what gpu are you paring with it and what typre of games do you play and at what refresh rate?

 

if you play high fps shooters or something like that at 1080/1440p 120hz+ then the intel will be better right now. 

 

if you are playing on a 60-100hz at 1080-4K then the amd cpu will be slower but the % is very minimal so you might as well get the 2600X for the extra threads when multi tasking and using heavy programs that make use of them.

 

Another thing to consider is the upgrade path. in say 2-3 years when you want a faster cpu the 8700k will be the only option on z370, where as on x470 you have 2700x and 3000 series and possibly 4000 series cpus with even faster clocks, more ipc etc.... 

Cannon Lake and Coffee Lake use the same socket. 

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

Cannon Lake and Coffee Lake use the same socket. 

and will not be on the same chipset 

[App4that]

3 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

and will not be on the same chipset 

The X370 and X470 are the same chipset? Coffee lake and Cannon Lake are compatable. https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-z390-coffee-lake-compatibility

 

Given what's happened with the GPP I doubt Intel would remove compatability with Z370, all Z390 is is a refresh to get features on the board Intel ran out of time to add. 

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

The X370 and X470 are the same chipset? Coffee lake and Cannon Lake are compatable. https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-z390-coffee-lake-compatibility

 

Given what's happened with the GPP I doubt Intel would remove compatability with Z370, all Z390 is is a refresh to get features on the board Intel ran out of time to add. 

but they change the pins 1151v3 v4 v5 v6 v7 v8 v9  wut has gpp got to do with it 

[App4that]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

but they change the pins 1151v3 v4 v5 v6 v7 v8 v9

Why is everyone being silly today? I mis a full moon?

 

If Coffee lake and Cannon lake work in the same socket, then Intel is following their 2 year support as they have with the Z370. For all we know AMD's lust for DDR5 brings us a AM4+ socket with the 3000 series. 

[Jumper118]

Just now, App4that said:

Why is everyone being silly today? I mis a full moon?

 

If Coffee lake and Cannon lake work in the same socket, then Intel is following their 2 year support as they have with the Z370. For all we know AMD's lust for DDR5 brings us a AM4+ socket with the 3000 series. 

you wont get an 8 core on z370 though  also i am silly evry day not just today  

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

you wont get an 8 core on z370 though  also i am silly evry day not just today  

Personally? Zero ****s if I get an 8 core. My 1700X cost me 380 bucks and my 8700k 360. Why would I want to spend more after only a year or two? Gaben willing I'll run them 5 years at least. Still using my 4790k in a build, if I could throw a 8700k in that board I wouldn't. How I roll. 

 

That said if we see a 8c mainstream i7 I wouldn't be shocked if a Z370 runs it. Wouldn't be shocked if it didn't. The 9700k will work, which should matter if you want Intel to keep it up. 

[Jumper118]

7 minutes ago, App4that said:

Personally? Zero ****s if I get an 8 core. My 1700X cost me 380 bucks and my 8700k 360. Why would I want to spend more after only a year or two? Gaben willing I'll run them 5 years at least. Still using my 4790k in a build, if I could throw a 8700k in that board I wouldn't. How I roll. 

 

That said if we see a 8c mainstream i7 I wouldn't be shocked if a Z370 runs it. Wouldn't be shocked if it didn't. The 9700k will work, which should matter if you want Intel to keep it up. 

maybe they need the extra power because they are doing more non gaming work, but you dont wnat a whole new system. a simple £100 or £200 extra on a new cpu can really help in heavy workloads. 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

maybe they need the extra power because they are doing more non gaming work, but you dont wnat a whole new system. a simple £100 or £200 extra on a new cpu can really help in heavy workloads. 

Why I save up and buy high, learned my lesson having to sell a i5 to buy a i7. 

 

Point is you can't say even the 8c "if" we get it won't work in a Z370. Signs point to it will, but nothing is known. Same as the AM4 support. 

[Jumper118]

17 minutes ago, App4that said:

Why I save up and buy high, learned my lesson having to sell a i5 to buy a i7. 

 

Point is you can't say even the 8c "if" we get it won't work in a Z370. Signs point to it will, but nothing is known. Same as the AM4 support. 

i am on the on internet. i know everything

[Alissa]

i thank you too for arguing, i going for a 1070 maybe a 1080, mainly high refresh rate for pbug, csgo and anyother game really.

but i will be play 4k on lighter games.

[Alissa]

also the 8600k does great in adobe premier, using warp stabilzer.

 

 

[Alissa]

Also Dimitri from HardwareCancucks had no dropped frames with his build (8600k).....so

 

 

[DarkSmith2]

since Intel confirmed no 10nm until late 2019, no reason to upgrade from a 8700k anyway.

Also no reason to buy an 8c16t CPU, close to nothing supports 16threads.

[App4that]

AMD went with 8 cores and 16 threads for one reason, and it's not for your experience while using Ryzen. Intel stayed at 4 cores for a long time, mostly because that's what's supported. The move to 6 cores was planned before Intel knew what Ryzen could do, had nothing to do with Ryzen. It had to do with more software becoming multithreaded.

 

Intel makes CPUs that support the software we have, also lower core counts help Intel's yields so they're not dooing it to be your buddy.

 

AMD went to 8 cores because they have to offer something to offset the slower per core performance, it also means AMD can stay at 8 cores for 10 years and no one will complain. If AMD could compete on a per core level, you wouldn't see them giving you 8 cores at the price they do. 

[Alissa]

i'll be going will 8600k, i think you all for the points you made.

 

[ravenshrike]

 

21 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

since Intel confirmed no 10nm until late 2019, no reason to upgrade from a 8700k anyway.

Also no reason to buy an 8c16t CPU, close to nothing supports 16threads.

Course, that does mean if you're lazy and leave a bunch of shit open in the background you can still game with no performance impact.

[i_build_nanosuits]

59 minutes ago, ravenshrike said:

 

Course, that does mean if you're lazy and leave a bunch of shit open in the background you can still game with no performance impact.

''shit in the background' does not use CPU ressources though...

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Alissa said:

i'll be going will 8600k, i think you all for the points you made.

 

i7 8700 > i5 8600K specially at what you want.