Nvidia next gen cards

[Vanlalchhanhima]

Any news on  the next gen Nvidia card? 

 

If Volta really got the improvement like  improvement from 9 series to 10. But the volta is only used on the high end card. Doesn't that mean, 2050/60 (or even 70)   wont get that much jump ?

[Shreyas1]

Mostly rumors at this point

[Remixt]

Wrong subforum to post this fella.

[Vanlalchhanhima]

1 minute ago, Remixt said:

Wrong subforum to post this fella.

Lol, im new to this  site.

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, Vanlalchhanhima said:

Any news on  the next gen Nvidia card? 

 

If Volta really got the improvement like  improvement from 9 series to 10. But the volta is only used on the high end card. Doesn't that mean, 2050/60 (or even 70)   wont get that much jump ?

20% faster than a stock GTX 1080 $599 and $699 for the reference card.

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-moved to graphics cards-

[Vanlalchhanhima]

9 minutes ago, Remixt said:

Wrong subforum to post this fella.

Hey how do i delete this :v

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Vanlalchhanhima said:

Hey how do i delete this :v

Ask moderator, not some random guy.

@Ryan_Vickers He wants this thread deleted, it atleast seems like so.

[FuzzyLogic]

2 minutes ago, Vanlalchhanhima said:

Hey how do i delete this :v

It's been moved to the right subforum.

[Froody129]

29 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

20% faster than a stock GTX 1080 $599 and $699 for the reference card.

Source?

[Streetguru]

Just now, Froody129 said:

Source?

It's basically the same thing that happened with the 980ti, very likely those numbers are about correct.

Depends on how good AMD's up coming GPUs will be, and if we'll even see Navi this year.

[App4that]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

It's basically the same thing that happened with the 980ti, very likely those numbers are about correct.

Depends on how good AMD's up coming GPUs will be, and if we'll even see Navi this year.

I'd say the only safe thing to say is the high end cards will have GDDR6. The question is, does Nvidia go with a gaming focused Volta based architecture, or one that's a refresh of Pascal. Since Volta leans on Tenser cores, you'd think a Pascal refresh would be coming, but with ray tracing and AI in games wanting to improve along with AI in the real world, Those Tenser cores could be used in gaming. 

 

Personally my guess is the performance improvement comes down to Nvidia betting on the way things are, or taking a risk with Tensor cores and developers making use of them. All depends on die size and transistor count. A Titan V only beats a 1080ti in games, some games by a small margin, because of that JUGE freaking GPU coming in almost double the 1080ti. Scaling bites it in the butt, hard. 

 

So Pascal refresh, totally agree about 20%

 

Volta, maybe 10%, but with a greater ability to support ray tracing and AI. 

[Streetguru]

51 minutes ago, App4that said:

Nvidia would likely never sell tensor cores on GTX cards, thats what you have to buy the expensive quadros for.

[App4that]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Nvidia would likely never sell tensor cores on GTX cards, thats what you have to buy the expensive quadros for.

I agreed with you, until the last few months. Nvidia stands to have a clear advantage over AMD by using Tensor cores for AI and ray tracing. Issue is like AMD and a lot of their risky choices, Nvidia stands to lose potential performace gains by going Volta over a refresh. I'd say things happening we can't see are directing Nvidia's choice. Nvidia has Nintendo, if they can grab another console manufacturer to use Volta, then developers have a reason to use Tensor cores. Since Nvidia is already fitting Volta into Jetsons for self driving for auto manufacturers, a flip to Volta in a APU is nothing. 

[Intelfreak]

From maxwell to pascal where a bigger lump down in nm from 28 nm to 16 nm with explain to one level the big improvements pascal where over maxwell.

 

How ever pascal to volta/ampere or what ever rumors says is only from 16 nm to 12 nm, heck it might turns out even that the 12 nm is really just a shrinked pascal. Not a huge step down in nm shrinking this time. And by that i dont think performance improvement will be so big. As other say around 10-20 % seems legit to me. 

[Mk7-Golf-R]

3 hours ago, Streetguru said:

It's basically the same thing that happened with the 980ti, very likely those numbers are about correct.

Depends on how good AMD's up coming GPUs will be, and if we'll even see Navi this year.

 

The 980 to 1080 generation was the first in a long time to have a huge leap in performance. I remember reading about that when the 1080 first came out.

 

and not to expect performance gains like it again for a while.

[Streetguru]

38 minutes ago, Mk7-Golf-R said:

 

The 980 to 1080 generation was the first in a long time to have a huge leap in performance. I remember reading about that when the 1080 first came out.

 

and not to expect performance gains like it again for a while.

Stock to stock sure for the 1080 vs 980ti, but a 980ti close to 1500mhz which isn't too hard caught up to the 1080. It was more of a joke in the enthusiast channels

 

On top of that the 1080 cost more than the 980 at launch, which was also a shame. Typically you expect better performance at the same price point or a lower one. Like with AMD's polaris 10 matching the older 290/390 performance at around $199

 

Adored covered all this.