Posted April 20, 2018 Hey LTT Community. My name is Ryan and i am a student in Grade 10 (or sophomore year) with no part time job. I currently have a budget of $400 AUD ($310 USD or $390 CAD) and am looking for a good easy on the bank Coffee-Lake Processor to upgrade to from my current Skylake i5-6500 (4C/4T). I understand my GPU is definitely a bottle-neck in my situation (look bellow for specs) however in a month or two i will be upgrading to a ASUS GeForce Strix GTX 1070 Ti ROG 8GB. I've currently got my eye on the i3-8350K (4C/4T) @ 4GHz as it wouldn't be a downgrade on my current performance (My current build listed bellow). However after watching some videos (Science Studio's i3-7350K Rant + Some benchmark videos) i have now gained a bit of confusion. I feel i should go with the i5-8400 or the i5-8500 (Both 6C/6T) for the extra 2 cores, 2 threads for future use as i might be doing some video editing as i may start moving over to TAFE (NSW Australia version of a 'Community Collage' i think). But id really love to overclock and and i feel for my steam library none of my games require 6 cores 6 threads. All i currently do is game currently and i have a Z370 board in a box ready for use and i've never overclocked a CPU (but id love to) so i would really love some help on my situation. --------------------------------------------- My PC Specs:: Processor: Intel Core i5-6500 (4C/4T Skylake)Graphics Card: ASUS Cerberus GTX 1050 Ti OC EditionRAM: 16GB G.Skill 4 2133MHz DDR4 Blue (4 x 4GB)Solid State: 120GB WD Green M.2Motherboard: ASRock B250M-Pro4 (LGA1151-1 Micro ATX)Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART RGB 700W (80+ Bronze)Wifi/Bluetooth Card: MSI Herald-AC Intel AC 8265 (802.11a/b/g/n/ac + Bluetooth 4.2)Hard Drive 1: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPMHard Drive 2: 500GB WD Blue 7200RPMCPU Cooler: DeepCool Gammaxx 400 (with Blue LED)Fan 1: Deepcool 120RF 120mm RGB Fan (with RGB ControllerFan 2 + 3: BitFenix Spectre Black 120mm Fans --------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Going from a 4c/4t to a 4c/4t would be a really dumb investment. Frankly i don't see why upgrade any thing since that 1050 Ti isn't really being limited by the i5 6500 and even if you do upgrade it to a 1070 Ti here in 2~ months you're better off just waiting on the next generations as you'll have a better budget and better offerings to work with. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Princess Cadence said: Going from a 4c/4t to a 4c/4t would be a really dumb investment. Frankly i don't see why upgrade any thing since that 1050 Ti isn't really being limited by the i5 6500 and even if you do upgrade it to a 1070 Ti here in 2~ months you're better off just waiting on the next generations as you'll have a better budget and better offerings to work with. I 100% agree with this sentiment, save a little more and get something that will last you a little longer. My Folding Stats - Join the fight against COVID-19 with FOLDING! - If someone has helped you out on the forum don't forget to give them a reaction to say thank you! The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. - Socrates Please put as much effort into your question as you expect me to put into answering it. CPU Ryzen 9 5950X Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-GAMING 5 RAM 32GB DDR4 3200 GPU Inno3D 4070 Ti Case Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Storage Western Digital Black 250GB, Seagate BarraCuda 1TB x2 PSU EVGA Supernova 1000w Display(s) Lenovo L29w-30 29 Inch UltraWide Full HD, BenQ - XL2430(portrait), Dell P2311Hb(portrait) Cooling MasterLiquid Lite 240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Yeah, i also don't see any reason for you to upgrade, especially from 4 threads to 4 threads. That cpu doesn't bottleneck your current or future gpu, and a new cpu wont make your pc feel faster. The only real upgrades would be the i7 8700k or the r7 2800x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Some Random Member said: Yeah, i also don't see any reason for you to upgrade, especially from 4 threads to 4 threads. That cpu doesn't bottleneck your current or future gpu, and a new cpu wont make your pc feel faster. The only real upgrades would be the i7 8700k or the r7 2800x. There isnt a R7 2800X... Plus a R5 6c/12t would still be a massive upgrade for him. My Folding Stats - Join the fight against COVID-19 with FOLDING! - If someone has helped you out on the forum don't forget to give them a reaction to say thank you! The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. - Socrates Please put as much effort into your question as you expect me to put into answering it. CPU Ryzen 9 5950X Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-GAMING 5 RAM 32GB DDR4 3200 GPU Inno3D 4070 Ti Case Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Storage Western Digital Black 250GB, Seagate BarraCuda 1TB x2 PSU EVGA Supernova 1000w Display(s) Lenovo L29w-30 29 Inch UltraWide Full HD, BenQ - XL2430(portrait), Dell P2311Hb(portrait) Cooling MasterLiquid Lite 240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Note that with Intel CPUs, going for overclocking itself uses money and drops performance/price ratio, unlike AMD ones like Ryzen. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Ben Quigley said: There isnt a R7 2800X... Plus a R5 6c/12t would still be a massive upgrade for him. There will be soon, but fine for now the r7 2700x is also a very good cpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Some Random Member said: There will be soon, but fine for now the r7 2700x is also a very good cpu. It's not confirmed. Besides, 2700X is already hitting the clock speed wall at default turbo clocks. Cant see where the potentially 2800x can stand. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Jurrunio said: It's not confirmed. Besides, 2700X is already hitting the clock speed wall at default turbo clocks. Cant see where the potentially 2800x can stand. Yeah, I really can't see how they can pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one. My Folding Stats - Join the fight against COVID-19 with FOLDING! - If someone has helped you out on the forum don't forget to give them a reaction to say thank you! The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. - Socrates Please put as much effort into your question as you expect me to put into answering it. CPU Ryzen 9 5950X Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-GAMING 5 RAM 32GB DDR4 3200 GPU Inno3D 4070 Ti Case Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Storage Western Digital Black 250GB, Seagate BarraCuda 1TB x2 PSU EVGA Supernova 1000w Display(s) Lenovo L29w-30 29 Inch UltraWide Full HD, BenQ - XL2430(portrait), Dell P2311Hb(portrait) Cooling MasterLiquid Lite 240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 Author So just so I’m clear. Hold off on the upgrade from Skylake to Coffee-Lake unless I want an i7-8700k or either wait for Intels 9th Generation ‘Ice-Lake’ sometime this year or go with the new Ryzen 7 2700X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, rejm0901 said: So just so I’m clear. Hold off on the upgrade from Skylake to Coffee-Lake unless I want an i7-8700k or either wait for Intels 9th Generation ‘Ice-Lake’ sometime this year or go with the new Ryzen 7 2700X? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, rejm0901 said: So just so I’m clear. Hold off on the upgrade from Skylake to Coffee-Lake unless I want an i7-8700k or either wait for Intels 9th Generation ‘Ice-Lake’ sometime this year or go with the new Ryzen 7 2700X? yep! My Folding Stats - Join the fight against COVID-19 with FOLDING! - If someone has helped you out on the forum don't forget to give them a reaction to say thank you! The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. - Socrates Please put as much effort into your question as you expect me to put into answering it. CPU Ryzen 9 5950X Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-GAMING 5 RAM 32GB DDR4 3200 GPU Inno3D 4070 Ti Case Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Storage Western Digital Black 250GB, Seagate BarraCuda 1TB x2 PSU EVGA Supernova 1000w Display(s) Lenovo L29w-30 29 Inch UltraWide Full HD, BenQ - XL2430(portrait), Dell P2311Hb(portrait) Cooling MasterLiquid Lite 240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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