FTC & EU Commission Zero in on NVIDIA GPP Calls for Investigation & Complaints

[Razor01]

3 minutes ago, Notional said:

This is all that the EU convicted Google of wrong doing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_vs._Google

 

If the FTC prosecuted Google for their shopping prioritization, then I stand corrected. But that is not all the EU convicted Google of. Stating that the FTC is somehow responsible of all of this, is a little bizarre.

FTC started it all off lol, without the FTC involvement, the EU wouldn't even have looked into it.  It wasn't just shopping prioritizion either, it was the way the google search algorithm prioritized searches in general that the FTC looked into.

 

EU started their case a couple of years after, so things could have changed, I don't know, but every single EU case I can think of that has a global company involvement in particular US companies, almost always starts with the FTC starting first.

[Notional]

Just now, Razor01 said:

FTC started it all off lol, without the FTC involvement, the EU wouldn't even have looked into it.  It wasn't just shopping prioritizion either, it was the way the google search algorithm prioritized searches in general that the FTC looked into.

 

EU started their case a couple of years after, so things could have changed, I don't know, but every single EU case I can think of that has a global company involvement in particular US companies, almost always starts with the FTC starting first.

As you can see from my link, the EU case was much more than just search results. That being said, obviously it makes sense for the FTC to be first when it comes to american companies. Like I said in another GPP thread, it's only a strength that both the FTC and the EUC hammer down on the same things. Synergy and all that.

[Razor01]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

As you can see from my link, the EU case was much more than just search results. That being said, obviously it makes sense for the FTC to be first when it comes to american companies. Like I said in another GPP thread, it's only a strength that both the FTC and the EUC hammer down on the same things. Synergy and all that.

Actually the EU google case, reads almost line for line the MS browser case. 

[Kamjam21xx]

File your complaints here!

I did

 

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt

[mr moose]

2 hours ago, Notional said:

The consumers can still buy their favourite brand. It will just have different component in it.

 

But like I've stated several times, I very much doubt we will see an import ban in the EU. No responsible company would ever let it come to that, dispite their level of vindictiveness. NVidia would fold long before that would happen.

 

You can't buy an Nvidia GPU if they have been banned, researchers cannot opt for volta or cuda based computing if they are banned.   They will not be banned.  Brands mean nothing in this situation.

[D13H4RD]

Honestly, I think this will just boil over and people will soon treat it as past news 

[Notional]

6 minutes ago, mr moose said:

You can't buy an Nvidia GPU if they have been banned, researchers cannot opt for volta or cuda based computing if they are banned.   They will not be banned.  Brands mean nothing in this situation.

You generally don't (unless we are talking Titan cards bought directly from NVidia). People generally buy an Asus card. Or an MSI card. The would still be able to do so, but with other components in it (GPU).

 

But I agree NVidia won't be banned. It will never come to that.

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

You generally don't (unless we are talking Titan cards bought directly from NVidia). People generally buy an Asus card. Or an MSI card. The would still be able to do so, but with other components in it (GPU).

 

But I agree NVidia won't be banned. It will never come to that.

Now you are just being silly.  Did CERN go and buy a pallet of Asus cards?  no they didn;t, but they did require Nvidia GPU's, so if they are banned how would CERN be able to buy the GPU's they require?   They can't, stop dancing around that fact.

[Notional]

Just now, mr moose said:

Now you are just being silly.  Did CERN go and buy a pallet of Asus cards?  no they didn;t, but they did require Nvidia GPU's, so if they are banned how would CERN be able to buy the GPU's they require?   They can't, stop dancing around that fact.

Who cares? The original argument was that the people would cause a "brexit" if EU banned NVidia. So the argument is about the average citizen, not highly specialized CERN physicists. Nothing requires NVidia. They'd reprogramme their software to use something like OpenCL instead of CUDA. There, they got over it.

 

Fact of the matter is, that the EU has every right and all power to ban NVidia if they see it necessary. They won't. NVidia woudl never let itself get to that point. They would buckle, pay up and shut up. That was the point. Not what a couple of hundreds of specialists, in a 740+ million strong superstate, needs.

[mr moose]

2 minutes ago, Notional said:

Who cares? The original argument was that the people would cause a "brexit" if EU banned NVidia. So the argument is about the average citizen, not highly specialized CERN physicists. Nothing requires NVidia. They'd reprogramme their software to use something like OpenCL instead of CUDA. There, they got over it.

 

It's not about the "average citizen" it's about everyone.   If you had read anything I posted you would have known from the beginning that this wasn't just about people buying Aus/gigabyte.  If you had of invested a little bit of thought in to the situation maybe you wouldn't have made such silly comments about banning nvidia from the EU.

 

2 minutes ago, Notional said:

Fact of the matter is, that the EU has every right and all power to ban NVidia if they see it necessary. They won't. NVidia woudl never let itself get to that point. They would buckle, pay up and shut up. That was the point. Not what a couple of hundreds of specialists, in a 740+ million strong superstate, needs.

 

You'd be better of just admitting you were wrong about banning Nvidia rather than trying to defend a silly presumption about the industry.