1st plan build pls halp

[Streetguru]

27 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

my budget is around $500-700 im at northwest US. idk how to look for my screen res or refresh rate pls halp 

Should be fine, motherboard may need a BIOS update, it's probably updated by now

includes a 1080p 75Hz IPS free-sync display, but the motherboard doesn't have display port. More expensive boards have it but the Pro4 is probably the best budget board.

you can just get windows 10 for free using microsoft's own media creation tool

If you want a possibly better value system buy a $20 case, 8GBs of fast memory, and the R3 2200G, you'll probably be fine with the R3 2200G system, maybe just get the better case
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kP8JbX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kP8JbX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($162.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.85 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($58.83 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $701.83

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KvDcq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KvDcq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.85 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $519.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-11 00:38 EDT-0400

 

[ZcanKal]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

no, the 1060 is good for high-ultra 1080p.

Oh, right, I wasn't even thinking of what you could squeeze into it with an extra 200 usd.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

this would be perfect! thank you so much! but is the motherboard's bios is already updated for ryzen 5? 

it should have been updated already. but wait for zen+ too.

[ZcanKal]

2 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

this would be perfect! thank you so much! but is the motherboard's bios is already updated for ryzen 5? 

Ryzen 1 CPU's are compatible with every AM4 motherboard, it's the newer CPU's and APU's on older motherboards that require a BIOS flash.

[kunka_boi161]

1 minute ago, ZcanKal said:

Oh, right, I wasn't even thinking of what you could squeeze into it with an extra 200 usd.

i guess i could use some for hard drives 

[Herman Mcpootis]

35 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

my budget is around $500-700 im at northwest US. idk how to look for my screen res or refresh rate pls halp 

which monitor do you have right now?

[ZcanKal]

Just now, kunka_boi161 said:

i guess i could use some for hard drives 

Get an SSD and use it as a boot drive (the drive with Windows on it) so it doesn't take forever to boot.

[kunka_boi161]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

which monitor do you have right now?

IDK how look for it help pls. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, kunka_boi161 said:

IDK how look for it help pls. 

the model number should be on the back of the monitor.

[kunka_boi161]

1 minute ago, ZcanKal said:

Get an SSD and use it as a boot drive (the drive with Windows on it) so it doesn't take forever to boot.

I can use SSD for boot then hard drive for storage right? 

[ZcanKal]

Just now, kunka_boi161 said:

I can use SSD for boot then hard drive for storage right? 

Yeah, an SSD is faster, but an HDD is not only cheaper but also very large in capacity, I'm talking 2 terabytes for 70$

[kunka_boi161]

2 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the model number should be on the back of the monitor.

found it. i have two of these 

[kunka_boi161]

Just now, ZcanKal said:

Yeah, an SSD is faster, but an HDD is not only cheaper but also very large in capacity, I'm talking 2 terabytes for 70$

Cool! thats a good find 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, kunka_boi161 said:

 

Probably don't need a new display then

Just grab the R5 2400G system without a monitor then

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

found it. i have two of these 

 

if you need the rig now:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.90 @ OutletPC) wait for Zen+ and see how that performs.
Motherboard: ASRock - H310M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.36 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($81.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($259.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.42 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($28.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $699.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-11 00:50 EDT-0400

 

if you don't need it immediately then you can use the iGPU for now and get the GPU later.

[Herman Mcpootis]

don't make multiple threads asking the same thing in such a short time, it only makes things confusing.

[kunka_boi161]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Probably don't need a new display then

Just grab the R5 2400G system without a monitor then

 

will that do even w/o gpu? 

[kunka_boi161]

Iv'e never built a PC before so which is btter? intel or ryzen CPU? 

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

Iv'e never built a PC before so which is btter? intel or ryzen CPU? 

intel's abit better in gaming but since you're doing streaming the ryzen 1600 would be a better choice. don't bother with the 2400G since you already have an i7 3770 rig.

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, kunka_boi161 said:

Iv'e never built a PC before so which is btter? intel or ryzen CPU? 

The whole point of the APU is being able to game on the intergrated graphics which are pretty alright

 

But if you already have an i7 3770 just toss in a GTX 1050ti or something which are currently overpriced, and upgrade to an R7 2700/X later if you want to do streaming.

[ATFink]

@Herman Mcpootis

How do you know his OptiPlex 990 has an i7 3770? I found specs online about OptiPlex 990s with i7 2600s. I guess it doesn't really matter as long the i7 he has is sandy bridge or newer.

 

@kunka_boi161

I need you to answer some questions so I can better understand what upgrades will work best for you:

 

1: If I'm not mistaken you plan to primarily game, and potentially stream with this computer. Is this correct?

 

2: Which model of the OptiPlex 990 do you have? The desktop chassis, the minitower chassis, the small form factor chassis (SFF), or the ultra small form factor chassis (USFF)?

(See: https://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/documents/optiplex-990-spec-sheet.pdf)

 

3: Assuming you're running windows 10, right click the windows button in the bottom left of your primary screen and click the system option. A window will pop up with device specifications. Tell me the CPU model and amount of installed RAM this window says you have. If you don't have windows 10 tell me what operating system you do have.

 

4: You stated you wanted to build a new system. Does this mean you want a new case or do you like the OptiPlex case?

 

If your CPU is an i7 3770 like @Herman Mcpootis said it was then you should be fine on the CPU side. If the quantity of RAM is insufficient maybe upgrade the RAM (DDR3 is WAY less expensive than DDR4 right now), but a GPU upgrade should be your primary focus right now.

 

Assuming you have either the desktop or the minitower chassis, to upgrade your GPU you will first need a different PSU that will have the 6+2 pins necessary to support the new GPU. I recommend the CoolerMaster MasterWatt 550 (terrific budget PSU since it always seems to go for ~$35 when including an MIR at Newegg... here's a link https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171115&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=).

 

I found this ancient thread talking about OptiPlex 990 upgrades while searching for OptiPlex PSU info. Someone with a minitower chassis installed a full ATX PSU and a 9800GT, so as long as you have the minitower of desktop chassis standard PSUs and GPUs should fit. Anyways, here's the tread for your reference:

https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General/Power-Supply-Upgrade-options-for-Optiplex-990-Mini-Tower/td-p/3706645

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 minutes ago, ATFink said:

@Herman Mcpootis

How do you know his OptiPlex 990 has an i7 3770? I found specs online about OptiPlex 990s with i7 2600s. I guess it doesn't really matter as long the i7 he has is sandy bridge or newer.

thought the other thread he made that got merged said i7 3770, didn't realise he just said i7.

 

[kunka_boi161]

13 hours ago, ATFink said:

@Herman Mcpootis

How do you know his OptiPlex 990 has an i7 3770? I found specs online about OptiPlex 990s with i7 2600s. I guess it doesn't really matter as long the i7 he has is sandy bridge or newer.

 

@kunka_boi161

I need you to answer some questions so I can better understand what upgrades will work best for you:

 

1: If I'm not mistaken you plan to primarily game, and potentially stream with this computer. Is this correct?

 

2: Which model of the OptiPlex 990 do you have? The desktop chassis, the minitower chassis, the small form factor chassis (SFF), or the ultra small form factor chassis (USFF)?

(See: https://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/documents/optiplex-990-spec-sheet.pdf)

 

3: Assuming you're running windows 10, right click the windows button in the bottom left of your primary screen and click the system option. A window will pop up with device specifications. Tell me the CPU model and amount of installed RAM this window says you have. If you don't have windows 10 tell me what operating system you do have.

 

4: You stated you wanted to build a new system. Does this mean you want a new case or do you like the OptiPlex case?

 

If your CPU is an i7 3770 like @Herman Mcpootis said it was then you should be fine on the CPU side. If the quantity of RAM is insufficient maybe upgrade the RAM (DDR3 is WAY less expensive than DDR4 right now), but a GPU upgrade should be your primary focus right now.

 

Assuming you have either the desktop or the minitower chassis, to upgrade your GPU you will first need a different PSU that will have the 6+2 pins necessary to support the new GPU. I recommend the CoolerMaster MasterWatt 550 (terrific budget PSU since it always seems to go for ~$35 when including an MIR at Newegg... here's a link https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171115&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=).

 

I found this ancient thread talking about OptiPlex 990 upgrades while searching for OptiPlex PSU info. Someone with a minitower chassis installed a full ATX PSU and a 9800GT, so as long as you have the minitower of desktop chassis standard PSUs and GPUs should fit. Anyways, here's the tread for your reference:

https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General/Power-Supply-Upgrade-options-for-Optiplex-990-Mini-Tower/td-p/3706645

Hi thanks for replying to my post. right now im just think if building is better than upgrade an old workstation. my i7 is 2600. i believe i have the small tower atm. my guess is earning a little bit for this pc like getting a used GPU then buying a PSU then focusing on my main starter build 

[ATFink]

2 hours ago, kunka_boi161 said:

Hi thanks for replying to my post. right now im just think if building is better than upgrade an old workstation. my i7 is 2600. i believe i have the small tower atm. my guess is earning a little bit for this pc like getting a used GPU then buying a PSU then focusing on my main starter build 

Ok. What do you expect with a new CPU platform? Increases in framerate, better physics, streaming... what? Like do you want a doubled framerate? Do you want to run more background programs while you play?

 

Please understand that I'm not trying to be rude. I'm really trying to get the best solution for YOU. The reason I'm asking about your expectations is because you may be able to harvest some parts from the old rig and build them into a new tower.

 

The monitors you have don't have very high refresh rates, so you might not need any more CPU horsepower. You may be able to harvest i7 2600, RAM, and motherboard while changing all other components (like the case, PSU, GPU, SDD/HDD) and get very similar apparent results if you changed everything including CPU, mobo, and RAM. In other words you could just save a lot of money since you might not have to buy another copy of windows (which version of windows are you running), a CPU, RAM (please look up how much your old system has as per #3 in my previous post), or a motherboard.

 

I'm also need to know whether you have the minitower, the sff, or the usff chassis. can you get a tape measure and tell me the approximate dimensions (height, width, legth) of your case?

[kunka_boi161]

2 hours ago, ATFink said:

Ok. What do you expect with a new CPU platform? Increases in framerate, better physics, streaming... what? Like do you want a doubled framerate? Do you want to run more background programs while you play?

 

Please understand that I'm not trying to be rude. I'm really trying to get the best solution for YOU. The reason I'm asking about your expectations is because you may be able to harvest some parts from the old rig and build them into a new tower.

 

The monitors you have don't have very high refresh rates, so you might not need any more CPU horsepower. You may be able to harvest i7 2600, RAM, and motherboard while changing all other components (like the case, PSU, GPU, SDD/HDD) and get very similar apparent results if you changed everything including CPU, mobo, and RAM. In other words you could just save a lot of money since you might not have to buy another copy of windows (which version of windows are you running), a CPU, RAM (please look up how much your old system has as per #3 in my previous post), or a motherboard.

 

I'm also need to know whether you have the minitower, the sff, or the usff chassis. can you get a tape measure and tell me the approximate dimensions (height, width, legth) of your case?

Hi thanks for understanding  so i followed herman's advice and snap my current rig's specs here. since i have i7 2600 atm should i just reuse it? (and save up to $170-$200) or a ryzen 5 2400g is a better option for me? I also got a free win10 pro with key when i bought this PC from a shop. I wanted to change my MoBO for a new one (because you know aesthetics). My other option is when i complete lets say this build  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r7sXvn and have some more left over money left i could just grab a pre-owned gtx970 or what for the 990 and give it to my brother since he plays cs go a lot.