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dual i9 7980xe BUILD?

whevo_the2nd_Nut
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hi guys first post here and new sign-up-e 

first off little about myself

SCI-ARC student "architecture field"

pc build through the summer for the fall semester for heavy renders

I was originally going to just put together an 18 core i9 with 3 to 4 1080 ti"s  and knowing I work with v-ray and rhino and rds max andddd Maya... I have heavy renders that typically sit in the lab for 24 to 48 hours.. and if I mess up.. that means a lower grade or more render time. the lab carries 4 cores and a 1080ti Alienware.. not worth the sit down FYI cause most of the time they are taken, and I need a custom pc build. 

budget 6-8k  "using it for side jobs too"

all and any help welcome!

 

located motherboards so far were the Asus "WS C621E SAGE"

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Why not get a xeon and 4 quadros as ECC would be beneficial in your case

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also CPU renders run faster and are more reliable in my opinion of course, i feel like every time there is a new year software which i tend to switch to relatively every 6 months i don't want to run into compatibility issues.

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6 minutes ago, whevo_the2nd_Nut said:

i want it for gaming too haha 

What about quadros or teslas then? A V100?

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3 minutes ago, whevo_the2nd_Nut said:

also CPU renders run faster and are more reliable in my opinion of course, i feel like every time there is a new year software which i tend to switch to relatively every 6 months i don't want to run into compatibility issues.

vray rt supports gpus,why dont you give it a try.
also redshift might be worth a look.
 

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So you want to use a LGA 2066 processor that only supports single socket operation and has no QPi links with a motherboard that only supports LGA 3647?

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What about quadros or teslas then? A V100?

I thought about it, those suckers are pricey as hell though, and since they are more AI based I'm curious what they'll be able to do for renders, I've tried looking up v-ray render speeds but no ones tested it yet.

 

3 minutes ago, McHox said:

vray rt supports gpus,why dont you give it a try.
also redshift might be worth a look.
 

yeah i recently installed it on the rog laptop i have and its helped a bit, not an impressive jump though which makes me wonder what 3 to 4 ti's would do

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So you want to use a LGA 2066 processor that only supports single socket operation and has no QPi links with a motherboard that only supports LGA 3647?

from what I read it said it supported the LGA 2066 socket, last I logged in that is unless there was a correction to the listing? and I wasn't aware that the i9 7980 wasn't compatible in a dual CPU function ?

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I'm looking at all the Xeon processors now as well, I guess my next question is, can you run mainstream games on a server-style pc?

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9 minutes ago, whevo_the2nd_Nut said:

I'm looking at all the Xeon processors now as well, I guess my next question is, can you run mainstream games on a server-style pc?

I wouldn't bother to be honest, get a 7980xe and put the 4 grand you saved into more GPUs and a custom loop (5ghz on an 18 core!)

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

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1 minute ago, whevo_the2nd_Nut said:

I'm looking at all the Xeon processors now as well, I guess my next question is, can you run mainstream games on a server-style pc?

You can but I wouldn't. Single core perf is garbage regardless the Xeon. Well except the E3 series but they aren't "real" Xeons.

 

Problem is worse with multi socket systems. There will be sockets sitting doing nothing while one is using a mere 4-6 cores loaded.

3 minutes ago, whevo_the2nd_Nut said:

from what I read it said it supported the LGA 2066 socket, last I logged in that is unless there was a correction to the listing? and I wasn't aware that the i9 7980 wasn't compatible in a dual CPU function ?

What listing? It certainly isn't the ASUS listing.

 

That what you originally meant(?): https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/WS-X299-SAGE/

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You can but I wouldn't. Single core perf is garbage regardless the Xeon. Well except the E3 series but they aren't "real" Xeons.

 

Problem is worse with multi socket systems. There will be sockets sitting doing nothing while one is using a mere 4-6 cores loaded.

What listing? It certainly isn't the ASUS listing.

 

That what you originally meant(?): https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/WS-X299-SAGE/

https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/WS-C621E-SAGE/specifications/

 

it was this one i guess on mobile it was wrong it said 2066 on my phone haha on pc its correctly listed

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With that kind of budget, you could get an i9, (I think) 2 quadros in one system and still have budget left over for a 1080 ti and an 8700k system.

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I need lots and lots of threads, like enough to make a blanket for grandma lol are there comparisons on render speeds comparing dual CPUs vs single cpu and 4 GPUs anywhere? 

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What about EPYC ?  Their cheapest 32 core is "only" 3400$ . you could potentially get 2 1900$ 7401 chips , you'd get 48 cores .

 

Motherboard pricing is still unknow atm , but you'd get plenty of I/O for accelerators . Only issue could be if you make heavy use of AVX2 , for which epyc is roughly 2/3 the performance of a comparable intel core.

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What about EPYC ?  Their cheapest 32 core is "only" 3400$ . you could potentially get 2 1900$ 7401 chips , you'd get 48 cores .

 

Motherboard pricing is still unknow atm , but you'd get plenty of I/O for accelerators . Only issue could be if you make heavy use of AVX2 , for which epyc is roughly 2/3 the performance of a comparable intel core.

sounds reasonable, but quality over quantity is a must for sure I've never heard of this so ill have to look into it too, I do plan on doing a custom loop too, I am an architect after all, so ima make it look goooddd we have a fully equipped metal shop, welding shop, wood shop, laser shop, 3d print shop etc so I'm still working on a custom rig to hold it all. 48 cores means 96 threads lol thats a lot. 

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sounds reasonable, but quality over quantity is a must for sure I've never heard of this so ill have to look into it too, I do plan on doing a custom loop too, I am an architect after all, so ima make it look goooddd we have a fully equipped metal shop, welding shop, wood shop, laser shop, 3d print shop etc so I'm still working on a custom rig to hold it all. 48 cores means 96 threads lol thats a lot. 

EPYC is AMD's new server lineup , it came out barely a few months ago ( which may or may not be a problem ).

 

I'm actually looking through PCPartpicker atm . How much RAM / storage do you think you'll need?

 

Do you use cuda or opencl heavily ?

Do you need pro codepaths for the gpus?

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yeah i recently installed it on the rog laptop i have and its helped a bit, not an impressive jump though which makes me wonder what 3 to 4 ti's would do

well thats the beauty of it,scales pretty much linearly and you can basically throw as many gpus as you want at it

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EPYC is AMD's new server lineup , it came out barely a few months ago ( which may or may not be a problem ).

 

I'm actually looking through PCPartpicker atm . How much RAM / storage do you think you'll need?

 

Do you use cuda or opencl heavily ?

Do you need pro codepaths for the gpus?

no code paths or open cl, I use v-ray 3.0+ lights heavily,  and multi-texturing mapping for realistic looking structures the more real it looks the better responses i get and the more jobs lol 

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no code paths or open cl, I use v-ray 3.0+ lights heavily,  and multi-texturing mapping for realistic looking structures the more real it looks the better responses i get and the more jobs lol 

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Motherboard: Asus - Z10PE-D16 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($466.65 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Kingston - ValueRAM 32GB (4 x 8GB) Registered DDR4-2400 Memory  ($408.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston - ValueRAM 32GB (4 x 8GB) Registered DDR4-2400 Memory  ($408.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($184.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($999.89 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($999.89 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($155.60 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 1300W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($329.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $7666.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-05 18:21 EDT-0400

 

Do note that this uses last-gen's broadwell-based xeons , but that's mainly because of how cheap they are vs the newer xeon platinums and golds.

 

This is a build that can actually be bought right now . Availability for skylake purely and EPYC isn't quite there yet , but should be in full swing within a couple months.

AMD Ryzen R7 1700 (3.8ghz) w/ NH-D14, EVGA RTX 2080 XC (stock), 4*4GB DDR4 3000MT/s RAM, Gigabyte AB350-Gaming-3 MB, CX750M PSU, 1.5TB SDD + 7TB HDD, Phanteks enthoo pro case

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https://techgage.com/article/performance-testing-chaos-groups-v-ray-gpu-cpu-4-0-beta-renderers/
also this might be interesting for you @whevo_the2nd_Nut

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1 hour ago, Coaxialgamer said:

here's what i could figure out :

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wYBCbX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wYBCbX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Xeon E5-2699 V4 2.2GHz 22-Core OEM/Tray Processor  ($1756.00 @ Amazon)
CPU: Intel - Xeon E5-2699 V4 2.2GHz 22-Core OEM/Tray Processor  ($1756.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - Z10PE-D16 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($466.65 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Kingston - ValueRAM 32GB (4 x 8GB) Registered DDR4-2400 Memory  ($408.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston - ValueRAM 32GB (4 x 8GB) Registered DDR4-2400 Memory  ($408.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($184.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($999.89 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($999.89 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($155.60 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 1300W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($329.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $7666.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-05 18:21 EDT-0400

 

Do note that this uses last-gen's broadwell-based xeons , but that's mainly because of how cheap they are vs the newer xeon platinums and golds.

 

This is a build that can actually be bought right now . Availability for skylake purely and EPYC isn't quite there yet , but should be in full swing within a couple months.

He says he wants to game on it too. 44 Cores would not work so well for gaming.

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