BEST CPU FOR MSI GTX 1060 6GB GPU!!

[ThroatKrush]

Looking for help in deciding which CPU i should choose to get the best performance out of my MSI GTX 1060 6GB GPU. I will have to upgrade my mobo and my RAM no matter which CPU i choose so that is not a concern at the moment. I currently have the GPU paired with a FX8350 on an ASUS Crosshair Formula V mobo with 16gb RAM. I am at the moment debating between the i5 8400 and the i5 8600k. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[ThroatKrush]

Leaning towards either an I5 8400 or i5 8600k but open to any and all suggestions. 

[airdeano]

welcome to the Linus Tech Tips forums!

 

to do what exactly?

productivity? gaming? web crawling?

[ThroatKrush]

Mainly gaming and web browsing. 

[Jurrunio]

What games are we talking about here?

[ThroatKrush]

If it helps I'm playing mainly Pubg and Battlefield 1 at the moment. I have a 144hz monitor so the more fps the better

sorry jurrunio was typing that message as your reply came in. Didn't mean for that to sound rude. 

[katoptrys]

Keep in mind you will need to buy a motherboard and DDR4 RAM for either a Ryzen or a Coffee Lake chip. That is budget money you need to allocate as well

[ThroatKrush]

1 minute ago, katoptrys said:

Keep in mind you will need to buy a motherboard and DDR4 RAM for either a Ryzen or a Coffee Lake chip. That is budget money you need to allocate as well

Yes i am aware of that, thank you. 

[Energycore]

8 minutes ago, ThroatKrush said:

Mainly gaming and web browsing. 

No need for a high-end CPU, you can go with an Intel i3 or a Ryzen 3 / Ryzen 5

[johnukguy]

The Ryzen 2600, or an existing 1600 or up, will be a much better deal than any present Intel CPU.

[Vegetable]

6 minutes ago, Energycore said:

No need for a high-end CPU, you can go with an Intel i3 or a Ryzen 3 / Ryzen 5

Thats a tad weak for 144hz isnt it? Id say i5 8400 minimum, preferably 8600k. 

[Jurrunio]

35 minutes ago, ThroatKrush said:

If it helps I'm playing mainly Pubg and Battlefield 1 at the moment. I have a 144hz monitor so the more fps the better

Then it doesnt matter from performance perspective. With a 1060 6gb, even a Ryzen 3 1200 or i3-8100 wont see CPU bottleneck

 

If you are after the best value option, the one that gives the most performance for the money (so you dont have to upgrade it for a long time), it will be the locked 8700, though you should wait for chipsets like B360 and H370 to come out before buying, because they are cheaper.

 

If that's too expensive, then the next step is AMD's Ryzen 5 1600, in many ways a little bit worse to the i5-8400. The only thing the 8400 performs worse in multicore workloads (video editing, rendering as such) and the rather expensive motherboard (because Z370, the high-end chipset is the only one available).

 

20 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Thats a tad weak for 144hz isnt it? Id say i5 8400 minimum, preferably 8600k. 

If a stock 6600k can nearly do it, then the 8100 should be close as well. The problem is the 1060 6gb here, but going further up in the graphics card department is expensive.

[Energycore]

3 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Thats a tad weak for 144hz isnt it? Id say i5 8400 minimum, preferably 8600k. 

 

Given the 1060 I'm not sure that it'll make a difference since you'll need to lower settings to reach 144fps on any game.

 

So I'd go i3 or Ryzen 5

[ThroatKrush]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then it doesnt matter from performance perspective. With a 1060 6gb, even a Ryzen 3 1200 or i3-8100 wont see CPU bottleneck

 

If you are after the best value option, the one that gives the most performance for the money (so you dont have to upgrade it for a long time), it will be the locked 8700, though you should wait for chipsets like B360 and H370 to come out before buying, because they are cheaper.

 

If that's too expensive, then the next step is AMD's Ryzen 5 1600, in many ways a little bit worse to the i5-8400. The only thing the 8400 performs worse in multicore workloads (video editing, rendering as such) and the rather expensive motherboard (because Z370, the high-end chipset is the only one available).

is there an expected release date for the other chipsets? The 8700 is a little more than i wish to spend on a cpu at the moment. i'm really looking to go with Intel on my next build but i have noticed the z370's can get pricey as you stated. 

[WallacEngineering]

38 minutes ago, ThroatKrush said:

Looking for help in deciding which CPU i should choose to get the best performance out of my MSI GTX 1060 6GB GPU. I will have to upgrade my mobo and my RAM no matter which CPU i choose so that is not a concern at the moment. I currently have the GPU paired with a FX8350 on an ASUS Crosshair Formula V mobo with 16gb RAM. I am at the moment debating between the i5 8400 and the i5 8600k. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Any Mid-Range CPU would be fine with this GPU :). Since you aren't going mega 1080Ti or anything you dont need to worry about extreme CPU performance (unless you plan to upgrade it later then go for the 8600K or 8700K for sure!).

 

Your choices are more than ample for this card.

 

Ive personally got a GTX 980 on a Ryzen 1600X build (see signature for details) and Im getting 80+ FPS in PUBG 1440p on Ultra settings (with a few turned down to high just for VRAM reasons):

 

EDIT: If you do want Ryzen, wait for 2000 series at the end of April, other than that, just choose whatever Ryzen 5 or i5 that you want

 

[ThroatKrush]

5 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Any Mid-Range CPU would be fine with this GPU :). Since you aren't going mega 1080Ti or anything you dont need to worry about extreme CPU performance (unless you plan to upgrade it later then go for the 8600K or 8700K for sure!).

 

Your choices are more than ample for this card.

 

Ive personally got a GTX 980 on a Ryzen 1600X build (see signature for details) and Im getting 80+ FPS in PUBG 1440p on Ultra settings (with a few turned down to high just for VRAM reasons):

 

EDIT: If you do want Ryzen, wait for 2000 series at the end of April, other than that, just choose whatever Ryzen 5 or i5 that you want

 

appreciate all the information given. My current build (minus the gpu) was a hand me down that introduced me to the world of pc gaming. I really would love something that will give me a STEADY 100-144 fps in PUBG on high to ultra settings at 1080p. If the 1060 is even capable of that. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

 

36 minutes ago, ThroatKrush said:

Mainly gaming and web browsing. 

what kind of games are you playing and at what resolution and what is your target framerate in those games?

[WhyAlwaysMe]

h370 and b360 board are supposedly being released soon and zen+ is being released next quarter. In your I would either get i5 8400 with b360/h370 or next gen ryzen

[ThroatKrush]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

 

what kind of games are you playing and at what resolution and what is your target framerate in those games?

FPS games are mainly what i play and right now i am strictly playing PUBG. Would love to get as close to 144fps at 1080p as I can. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, WhyAlwaysMe said:

h370 and b360 board are supposedly being released soon and zen+ is being released next quarter. In your I would either get i5 8400 with b360/h370 or next gen ryzen

yes i agree the H series boards have been spoted on shelf in taiwan they will be here soon...i5-8400 with a H370 board combo will be cheap...

 

 

Meanwhile, if you can affod this with a decent 40$ air cooler you're golden for gaming:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($234.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($163.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $498.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 23:03 EDT-0400

[ThroatKrush]

1 minute ago, WhyAlwaysMe said:

h370 and b360 board are supposedly being released soon and zen+ is being released next quarter. In your I would either get i5 8400 with b360/h370 or next gen ryzen

next gen Ryzen are the 2000 series that are coming out in April correct? Curious what kind of benchmarks those are going to bring. 

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, ThroatKrush said:

is there an expected release date for the other chipsets? The 8700 is a little more than i wish to spend on a cpu at the moment. i'm really looking to go with Intel on my next build but i have noticed the z370's can get pricey as you stated. 

My guess will be next month. It's available in a few countries where no one really cares about Intel's NDA, so...

[WallacEngineering]

7 minutes ago, ThroatKrush said:

appreciate all the information given. My current build (minus the gpu) was a hand me down that introduced me to the world of pc gaming. I really would love something that will give me a STEADY 100-144 fps in PUBG on high to ultra settings at 1080p. If the 1060 is even capable of that. 

The 1060 is unfortunately not capable of that. MAYBE if you choose the high preset and then lower a few of the settings to medium. In any case, Ryzen 1000 CPUs are currently not capable of this, even overclocked, but Ryzen 2000 MIGHT be with some mild OC. Go Intel if you want the absolute best for gaming though. Until 7nm/7nm+ Zen 2/2+/3 launches around 2020, Intel will for sure be ahead in sheer frame rates. Even in 2020, Intel will likely be ahead in sheer frames, although more likely by a tiny margin that doesn't matter, as all 7nm based CPUs should EASILY be capable of 200-300 FPS on just about any game.

 

As for the card, a GTX 980 or 1070 would be required for that 100+ FPS. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news  but I can say that my Samsung MU6500 4K TV @60Hz is more than capable of even competitive play. You would be surprised at how smooth 60FPS is SO LONG as you can keep it ROCK STABLE with NO frame drops.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, ThroatKrush said:

next gen Ryzen are the 2000 series that are coming out in April correct? Curious what kind of benchmarks those are going to bring. 

mid April.

 

On leaks it seems like a 10-15% improvement, though it's still unkown whether it's just raised clock speed and memory frequency or something else.

[ThroatKrush]

1 minute ago, WallacEngineering said:

The 1060 is unfortunately not capable of that. MAYBE if you choose the high preset and then lower a few of the settings to medium. In any case, Ryzen 1000 CPUs are currently not capable of this, even overclocked, but Ryzen 2000 MIGHT be with some mild OC. Go Intel if you want the absolute best for gaming though. Until Zen 2/2+/3 launches around 2020, Intel will for sure be ahead in sheer frame rates.

 

As for the card, a GTX 980 or 1070 would be required for that 100+ FPS. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news  but I can say that my Samsung MU6500 4K TV @60Hz is more than capable of even competitive play. You would be surprised at how smooth 60FPS is SO LONG as you can keep it ROCK STABLE with NO frame drops.

the frame drops is what i am having a HUGE problem with at the moment. On my current build (1060 paired with a fx-8350) my frames will run around 90-100 (all setting very low except AA and textures at high) but as soon as I go into a town my frames plummet to sub 50, unless i don't move , and then at random times just running in the middle of the map with nothing around me the frames will drop to 60-70 briefly then back to 90 then back to 60-70 and so on and so on. Maybe some of that has to do with the poor optimization of PUBG itself but i know alot has to do with my current cpu i would assume.