Show off your old and retro computer parts

[TheDutchGinger]

5 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

Also, do you know what interface those red cables are? They look like SATA, which they might actually be, since SATA appeared in 2000, but I've never seen a machine this old with onboard SATA.

My much, much newer HP ML370 G5 (2007, I believe) still uses an IDE interface.

[Bitter]

Looks like SATA 150 to me. I had a P4 system with it!

[Average Nerd]

1 minute ago, TheDutchGinger said:

God Dammit HP, what kind of logic is this?

 

I've been booting off of a USB drive since I have my machine, and it takes so, so long (boot time is like 5-6 minutes).

[flibberdipper]

6 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

Also, do you know what interface those red cables are? They look like SATA, which they might actually be, since SATA appeared in 2000, but I've never seen a machine this old with onboard SATA.

My much, much newer HP ML370 G5 (2007, I believe) still uses an IDE interface.

SATA for consumer boards didn't really start to become commonplace until 2002-2003. Given the fact that the board in question has PCI-X that certainly puts it into workstation/server class territory of the era. I'd be curious what the model is, but that's perfectly obscured by the cable spaghetti, of course.

[TheDutchGinger]

Just now, Average Nerd said:

God Dammit HP, what kind of logic is this?

 

I've been booting off of a USB drive since I have my machine, and it takes so, so long (boot time is like 5-6 minutes).

this one with the hard drives in it would take 3-5min to startup and when it does the fans always spin on full power so it's extremely loud. (btw found when it was actually build: june 12 2004)

[Average Nerd]

1 minute ago, flibberdipper said:

SATA for consumer boards didn't really start to become commonplace until 2002-2003

Ah, that makes sense.

1 minute ago, TheDutchGinger said:

when it does the fans always spin on full power so it's extremely loud

Yeah, most servers do that. When I boot mine I wear earmuffs, because with its 6 120mm server fans it manages to get up to 80db(A).

[TheDutchGinger]

5 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

SATA for consumer boards didn't really start to become commonplace until 2002-2003. Given the fact that the board in question has PCI-X that certainly puts it into workstation/server class territory of the era. I'd be curious what the model is, but that's perfectly obscured by the cable spaghetti, of course.

[Kilrah]

17 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

My much, much newer HP ML370 G5 (2007, I believe) still uses an IDE interface.

SATA was very much common back then but your thing is a server with 16 HDD slots, and was meant to have PCIe SAS controller cards the drives would be attached to. The onboard IDE would be at most for booting off of.

[flibberdipper]

1 minute ago, TheDutchGinger said:

 

Thought that looked like a socket 478 cooler. Good ol' Pentium 4 action released in early 2004 from what I've gathered. We love to see it.

[Average Nerd]

Just now, Kilrah said:

PCIe SAS controller cards the drives would be attached to.

I actually managed to find those in my storage, but they're RAID only, with battery backed cache. (HP SmartArray P400)

And the backplanes use a older SAS standard, so I can't throw in a more modern HBA, which would make it able to boot from them. (I am aware that it would have been able to do that through the RAID cards, but Windows 10 doesn't like them)

I do need to upgrade to a bigger USB drive, because 16GB isn't even big enough to install Windows Updates.

[Kilrah]

1 minute ago, Average Nerd said:

I do need to upgrade to a bigger USB drive, because 16GB isn't even big enough to install Windows Updates.

Or snatch a used IDE HDD

 

[Average Nerd]

1 minute ago, Kilrah said:

Or snatch a used IDE HDD

 

Windows installer didn't detect mine... and I constantly forget it's even in there.

 

[Kilrah]

8 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

Windows installer didn't detect mine... and I constantly forget it's even in there.

Probably needed drivers that are unobtainium by now or were only included in contemporary Windows Server editions...

[Dabombinable]

21 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

Windows installer didn't detect mine... and I constantly forget it's even in there.

 

Sounds much like my 20GB Maxtor. Really want to use it due to the sound...but it's too unreliable.

[Kilrah]

2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Sounds much like my 20GB Maxtor. Really want to use it due to the sound...but it's too unreliable.

My iMac's missing something since I replaced the 13GB Maxtor... it works fine, but kinda wanted more space, maybe not a great idea in the end

[da na]

2 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

My iMac's missing something since I replaced the 13GB Maxtor... it works fine, but kinda wanted more space, maybe not a great idea in the end

Rig up a phone vibrating motor to the HDD light pins on the motherboard lol

 

There's definitely something special about HDD noise. Still use a 4x143GB 15K RPM array for video editing just because I like the sound.

[Kilrah]

https://www.retrokits.de/index.php/hdd-clicker-v0-2/

 

On these Maxtors the spindle itself is LOUD and that's a large part of it tough...

[Dabombinable]

12 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

https://www.retrokits.de/index.php/hdd-clicker-v0-2/

 

On these Maxtors the spindle itself is LOUD and that's a large part of it tough...

For both of my Maxtor D740x-6l, ball bearing 20GB and F.D.B 60GB, the spindle motor is the loudest of all of my HDD by far. Even going back to ones from 1992 through 1999.

With both drives installed in my Athlon XP 3000+ PC (which uses a modern case), I can feel the heads park through my desk when I shut it down. As well as a thrumming coming from the drives (they don't do it individually so it'd be harmonics).

[flibberdipper]

50 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

For both of my Maxtor D740x-6l, ball bearing 20GB and F.D.B 60GB, the spindle motor is the loudest of all of my HDD by far. Even going back to ones from 1992 through 1999.

With both drives installed in my Athlon XP 3000+ PC (which uses a modern case), I can feel the heads park through my desk when I shut it down. As well as a thrumming coming from the drives (they don't do it individually so it'd be harmonics).

One of the things I love about the 8TB Easystore I use for my Series X, which I'm pretty sure has an EMZZ in it, is how THONKY it is. I can feel it through my table.

 

 

[da na]

ATI's drivers are always such a mess.

 

The only way I've gotten a Radeon Xpress 200M of mine working on W7 is with the Radeon X1550 driver extracted from a Vista install DVD. 

 

None of the drivers from ATI's website or Windows Update worked, but... this did? 

 

Will be trying that same driver witn the temperamental Radeon X1300 in my Inspiron E1505... due to it having a Dell VBIOS the Catalyst driver does not recognize it. Maybe this will though... 

Btw freezing the batteries did literally nothing. WikiHow has lied to us

[Average Nerd]

2 hours ago, da na said:

Btw freezing the batteries did literally nothing. WikiHow has lied to us

I could imagine.

I don't know about NiMH, but NiCd batterys have a problem where Cadmium oxide forms on one of the poles when the battery is being charged without being fully discharged, reducing its performance mostly irreversibly. This applies to new and old NiCd batterys, it's just how they function.

[8tg]

While Ive got these out for other things

the t43p, latitude e6410, and x220

windows xp, vista and 7

 

the t43p has the 1600x1200 ips flexview display, it is gorgeous for its time

 

[Kilrah]

On 1/17/2024 at 3:12 PM, Bitter said:

I think I asked this before but what's the oldest hardware anyone has posted to the forums with?

I want to try something but need to wait until a new page starts cause... yeah that loading 

[TheDutchGinger]

Anybody know how well this would run games like DOOM?

Edited January 19 by TheDutchGinger
Forgot the picture heh

[8tg]

10 minutes ago, TheDutchGinger said:

Anybody know how well this would run games like DOOM?

The GPU and lack of an ssd would be a problem. Otherwise it’ll run I presume you imply the 2016 doom. You’ll need a better GPU for that.

Doom 3 will run fine as is.