Is a hyperthreading CPU necessary?

[Chris Lowell]

 I'm planning on buying a new gaming pc but I'm not sure which CPU to get. I'm stuck between the i5 8600k and i7 8700. I currently have an i7 4790 and i can multitask (watch a stream, watch YouTube, internet browsing in general) even if a game is running. My friend has an i5 6700k and it is sluggishly slow when trying to multitask when running a game in then background. I'm not sure if this will be an issue in the 8th gen Intel CPUs but I want to be able to multitask like this. 

 

Note: I have an ssd and hard drive in my pc and my friend just has a hard drive. Idk if that causes some of the apparent lack of multitasking ablility. 

[patric_o]

If you can afford the i7 then why not get it? Always get the best stuff you can afford. 

[Princess Luna]

The i7 8700 offers over all better value since it can boost 4.3ghz all cores and has HT while being a 65W TDP only CPU which means you can cheap up on motherboard since VRMs and Power Phases will matter less, same thing about cooling, no need to delid nor break the bank on expensive cooling.

[i_build_nanosuits]

5 minutes ago, Chris Lowell said:

 I'm planning on buying a new gaming pc but I'm not sure which CPU to get. I'm stuck between the i5 8600k and i7 8700. I currently have an i7 4790 and i can multitask (watch a stream, watch YouTube, internet browsing in general) even if a game is running. My friend has an i5 6700k and it is sluggishly slow when trying to multitask when running a game in then background. I'm not sure if this will be an issue in the 8th gen Intel CPUs but I want to be able to multitask like this. 

 

Note: I have an ssd and hard drive in my pc and my friend just has a hard drive. Idk if that causes some of the apparent lack of multitasking ablility. 

if your CPU is doing great for you why would you want to replace it? especially right now with the prices for new DDR4 RAM and only Z series boards and shit...

 

The i5-8600K is very similar in performance to the i7-4790K...so i would not do that ''upgrade/sidegrade'' it's nowhere near worth your money...the i7-8700 would be a decent upgrade but there are no cheap B series boards to go with it...so if you really need this upgrade IMHO your only option really is to go balls out and shoot for the i7-8700K which is a very expensive upgrade once you factor in a Z370 board and 16GB of fast DDR4 RAM...i would only do it if you REALLY need an upgrade....like...right now.

[Damascus]

Wait for spectre and meltdown proof 9th gen cpus

[SpaceGhostC2C]

No, it's hardly necessary. Think of it as an occasional, case-specific extra boost over the hard specs of the CPU (cores, clocks, cache).

 

1 hour ago, patric_o said:

If you can afford the i7 then why not get it? Always get the best stuff you can afford. 

I can afford an i7-7980X, a compatible motherboard, and a Quadro P6000, but I would be an idiot if I spent my money on that...

 

I'd rather say always go for the "sweet spot" for your needs. There's always something more expensive out there with dubious real-world benefits for a particular person's use case.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Why would you want to upgrade an i7-4790? That is still a killer gaming cpu. About the only use case I could see for doing the upgrade is if you care a LOT about Cemu emulation, in which case you'd be nuts to consider another locked cpu.

[Chris Lowell]

2 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

if your CPU is doing great for you why would you want to replace it? especially right now with the prices for new DDR4 RAM and only Z series boards and shit...

 

The i5-8600K is very similar in performance to the i7-4790K...so i would not do that ''upgrade/sidegrade'' it's nowhere near worth your money...the i7-8700 would be a decent upgrade but there are no cheap B series boards to go with it...so if you really need this upgrade IMHO your only option really is to go balls out and shoot for the i7-8700K which is a very expensive upgrade once you factor in a Z370 board and 16GB of fast DDR4 RAM...i would only do it if you REALLY need an upgrade....like...right now.

The PC with the i7 4790 in it is pretty much a family pc... I'm building my own which gives me complete control over it..

 

[gbergeron]

2 hours ago, Chris Lowell said:

 I'm planning on buying a new gaming pc but I'm not sure which CPU to get. I'm stuck between the i5 8600k and i7 8700. I currently have an i7 4790 and i can multitask (watch a stream, watch YouTube, internet browsing in general) even if a game is running. My friend has an i5 6700k and it is sluggishly slow when trying to multitask when running a game in then background. I'm not sure if this will be an issue in the 8th gen Intel CPUs but I want to be able to multitask like this. 

 

Note: I have an ssd and hard drive in my pc and my friend just has a hard drive. Idk if that causes some of the apparent lack of multitasking ablility. 

First a 6700K is better than a 4790 so there is no way his computer is slower, he just have viruses or whatever the issue is but it's not the hardware lol

 

Both 4790k and 6700k are capable of playing games and running other app in the background EASILY without being slow

 

Concerning your question, go for 8700 better value in the long term

[Chris Lowell]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

The i7 8700 offers over all better value since it can boost 4.3ghz all cores and has HT while being a 65W TDP only CPU which means you can cheap up on motherboard since VRMs and Power Phases will matter less, same thing about cooling, no need to delid nor break the bank on expensive cooling.

I see you have an i7 8700 and a hyper 212. Does that cooler do a good enough job to cool your CPU?

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Chris Lowell said:

I see you have an i7 8700 and a hyper 212. Does that cooler do a good enough job to cool your CPU?

Yes full stressing it with all I can renders on a max registered temperature of 67º~68º Celsius while being virtually silent.

[Chris Lowell]

5 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

First a 6700K is better than a 4790 so there is no way his computer is slower, he just have viruses or whatever the issue is but it's not the hardware lol

 

Both 4790k and 6700k are capable of playing games and running other app in the background EASILY without being slow

 

Concerning your question, go for 8700 better value in the long term

Mistype.. idk how to edit.. he has an i5 6600k

 

[gbergeron]

47 minutes ago, Chris Lowell said:

Mistype.. idk how to edit.. he has an i5 6600k

 

An i5 should do that quite easily tho unless the game is very deamdning like maybe in bf1 things like that

 

But yeah a 4790 is better than a 6600k for sure

[Princess Luna]

14 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

An i5 should do that quite easily tho unless the game is very deamdning like maybe in bf1 things like that

 

But yeah a 4790 is better than a 6600k for sure

He means he likes to multi-task a lot, if he closes every thing apart the game then obviously it'll still run fine, start adding stuff though and the i5 will choke real quick.

[Ebony Falcon]

7 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

The i7 8700 offers over all better value since it can boost 4.3ghz all cores and has HT while being a 65W TDP only CPU which means you can cheap up on motherboard since VRMs and Power Phases will matter less, same thing about cooling, no need to delid nor break the bank on expensive cooling.

There not at 65 watt at 4.3ghz tho it's only 65 at base clocks