Ryzen APU Build Plan

[Noyu]

So I've been planning a build for my niece for quite a while now and I've heard the Ryzen APUs are coming out this Feb.

 

A Ryzen APU will fit very nicely to our use-case so here's a mockup of the build:

 

APU: Ryzen 5 2400G - 170$ (this is assuming the price here in my country will be even close to the release price haha)

Cooler: whatever cooler it comes with haha (or if that won't fit, maybe a Cryorig C7 or a Noctua NH-L9a-AM4) - 0-40$

Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350N Gaming WiFi - 120$

RAM: 2x8GB DDR4 of whatever's the cheapest - 160$ (at current pricing, praying it'll get cheaper)

Case + PSU: InWin Chopin with 150W PSU - 80$

SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB 2.5" SATA - 110$ (price is of the Intel 600P M.2 NVMe 256GB which I will buy for my own rig and give her the Samsung)

HDD: WD 2.5" 1TB - 0$ (will give her mine)

OS: Windows 8 - 0$ (I have a free key lying around)

 

So running total would be 680$.

I can probably shave it to around 600$ IF the Wraith cooler fits and if I REALLY LOOK for used 2x8GB DD4 kits.

This would've been a cheap build if it weren't for the 2x8GB DDR4's ridiculous pricing.

 

The build will serve as my niece's gaming PC (Roblox, Minecraft, oldschool emulators), the family's HTPC, and as a smol 1TB NAS.

 

1. yay or nay?

2. how much of a performance hit would I take if I opted for shitty ValueRAM / ValueSelect sticks ahaha?

 

P.S.

plan is to build this by March for her birthday

[ryanmassey1337]

5 minutes ago, Noyu said:

So I've been planning a build for my niece for quite a while now and I've heard the Ryzen APUs are coming out this Feb.

 

A Ryzen APU will fit very nicely to our use-case so here's a mockup of the build:

 

APU: Ryzen 5 2400G - 170$ (this is assuming the price here in my country will be even close to the release price haha)

Cooler: whatever cooler it comes with haha (or if that won't fit, maybe a Cryorig C7 or a Noctua NH-L9a-AM4) - 0-40$

Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350N Gaming WiFi - 120$

RAM: 2x8GB DDR4 of whatever's the cheapest - 160$ (at current pricing, praying it'll get cheaper)

Case + PSU: InWin 301 Chopin with 150W PSU - 80$

SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB 2.5" SATA - 110$ (price is of the Intel 600P M.2 NVMe 256GB which I will buy for my own rig and give her the Samsung)

HDD: WD 2.5" 1TB - 0$ (will give her mine)

OS: Windows 8 - 0$ (I have a free key lying around)

 

So running total would be 680$.

I can probably shave it to around 600$ IF the Wraith cooler fits and if I REALLY LOOK for used 2x8GB DD4 kits.

This would've been a cheap build if it weren't for the 2x8GB DDR4's ridiculous pricing.

 

The build will serve as my niece's gaming PC (Roblox, Minecraft, oldschool emulators), the family's HTPC, and as a smol 1TB NAS.

 

1. yay or nay?

2. how much of a performance hit would I take if I opted for shitty ValueRAM / ValueSelect sticks ahaha?

 

P.S.

plan is to build this by March for her birthday

Seems all good but keep in mind a GPU upgrade would be necessary later in to achieve good performance. Other than that... it all looks fine.

[Noyu]

8 minutes ago, ryanmassey1337 said:

Seems all good but keep in mind a GPU upgrade would be necessary later in to achieve good performance. Other than that... it all looks fine.

ah yeah that I do know. I actually started the build plan with a ML09 + 1050Ti LP. Just so we have that GPU upgrade path LATER on.

But that's praying NVIDIA/AMD releases another LP card later.

 

Anyways I've decided this is a one-time deal anyways, so no more upgrade plans. Maybe just adding/swapping SSDs/HDDs.

 

EDIT: she may also borrow my rig if she wants to play AAA games. but she has to buy me the game herself hahahaha

[ryanmassey1337]

4 minutes ago, Noyu said:

ah yeah that I do know. I actually started the build plan with a ML09 + 1050Ti LP. Just so we have that GPU upgrade path LATER on.

But that's praying NVIDIA/AMD releases another LP card later.

 

Anyways I've decided this is a one-time deal anyways, so no more upgrade plans. Maybe just adding/swapping SSDs/HDDs.

 

EDIT: she may also borrow my rig if she wants to play AAA games. but she has to buy me the game herself hahahaha

The Ryzen 5 2400G is said to be just as fast as an i5 8400+GT 1030... If she is an esports gamer, the performance will be very nice. I plane to build a small form factor APU build myself.

[Jurrunio]

Nay for the power supply. these bundled stuff are 99% no good, 1% doesnt work at all.

[ryanmassey1337]

7 minutes ago, Noyu said:

ah yeah that I do know. I actually started the build plan with a ML09 + 1050Ti LP. Just so we have that GPU upgrade path LATER on.

But that's praying NVIDIA/AMD releases another LP card later.

 

Anyways I've decided this is a one-time deal anyways, so no more upgrade plans. Maybe just adding/swapping SSDs/HDDs.

 

EDIT: she may also borrow my rig if she wants to play AAA games. but she has to buy me the game herself hahahaha

And yes, this is a one time deal. $169? That's an insane deal! Buy it asap, everyone will want it lol

[FloRolf]

You should rather get 8gb ram but fast one. Ryzen in general and APUs really like fast ram in order to give best performance. You should really be looking at 3000+mhz and not some shitty 2133.

[19_blackie_73]

Get a decent psu right from the start, that bundled stuff is crap. Do yourself a favor and get something thats reliable and from a reputable brand

[LienusLateTips]

No to the PSU.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, 19_blackie_73 said:

Get a decent psu right from the start, that bundled stuff is crap. Do yourself a favor and get something thats reliable and from a reputable brand

All brands make junk stuff, even Corsair or SeaSonic, example M12II

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

All brands make junk stuff, even Corsair or SeaSonic, example M12II

at least the m12ii wasnt junk when it's new, it's just obsolete.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

at least the m12ii wasnt junk when it's new, it's just obsolete.

But they still make and sell it, there's the problem

 

SeaSonic is running on Valve time, it's replacement was supposed to come out September

[19_blackie_73]

16 minutes ago, JDE said:

All brands make junk stuff, even Corsair or SeaSonic, example M12II

Thats why i said reliable AND from a reputable brand

Cause these chinese psu bombs are not backed really by anything, and op does not need sth high end, only sth reliable that won't toast the system. And if it does for whatever reason anyways, you have more chance to get all damaged components replaced if you buy known brands

[LienusLateTips]

4 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

Thats why i said reliable AND from a reputable brand

Cause these chinese psu bombs are not backed really by anything, and op does not need sth high end, only sth reliable that won't toast the system. And if it does for whatever reason anyways, you have more chance to get all damaged components replaced if you buy known brands

Would be better just to point to PSU tier list and choose something Tier 3 up, since most of those are great and you won't need the PSU replaced and they are from known brands.

[Noyu]

1 hour ago, ryanmassey1337 said:

The Ryzen 5 2400G is said to be just as fast as an i5 8400+GT 1030... If she is an esports gamer, the performance will be very nice. I plane to build a small form factor APU build myself.

actually so far she only plays Roblox and Minecraft. I let her play my LoL account for the daily missions on COOP vs AI but she's having a hard time trying to understand the game.

BTW she's 8y/o, turning 9 this year.

1 hour ago, FloRolf said:

You should rather get 8gb ram but fast one. Ryzen in general and APUs really like fast ram in order to give best performance. You should really be looking at 3000+mhz and not some shitty 2133.

oh that's good to know. so looks like I'll be scrapping the Value RAMS idea then. thanks!

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Nay for the power supply. these bundled stuff are 99% no good, 1% doesnt work at all.

1 hour ago, JDE said:

No to the PSU.

but but this is a special case. it doesn't support standard SFX PSU (let alone ATX). if you check the spec page the PSU looks like a laptop adapter..

 

EDIT: so I did some research. it seems the PSU included is their own proprietary PSU https://www.in-win.com/en/pc-power-supply/ip-ad-series-a/APAC

I'm now trying to look for reviews or performance testing of this model.

[Jurrunio]

41 minutes ago, Noyu said:

but but this is a special case. it doesn't support standard SFX PSU (let alone ATX). if you check the spec page the PSU looks like a laptop adapter..

 

EDIT: so I did some research. it seems the PSU included is their own proprietary PSU https://www.in-win.com/en/pc-power-supply/ip-ad-series-a/APAC

I'm now trying to look for reviews or performance testing of this model.

If it doesnt use ATX or SFX PSU, I'd use another case. This is for both repair and future upgrade reasons.

[Noyu]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

If it doesnt use ATX or SFX PSU, I'd use another case. This is for both repair and future upgrade reasons.

apparently it's called "FLEX ATX"