New CPU

[zwpkhm99]

Hey guys I would like to ask your opinion on which cpu to buy.

End of january I will buy myself a new pc and I am currently choosing the parts.

My pc

- nzxt s340

- 16gb ram

- 500W power supply

- Radeon HD 7580 1gb (waiting for gpu prices to go down so I am using the old graphics card of a friend until that happens but I probably will buy a 1060 6gb)

so now to my question, ryzen 5 1600/ ryzen 5 1600x with the 612 evo Coolermaster/ i5 8600k 612 evo Coolermaster

I will use it mostly for gaming and casual stuff (no content creation).

Thx for all replies:) 

[asus killer]

ryzen will need some fast DD4 RAM. Ryzen 1600 and overclock it

[BluJay614]

4 minutes ago, zwpkhm99 said:

Hey guys I would like to ask your opinion on which cpu to buy.

End of january I will buy myself a new pc and I am currently choosing the parts.

My pc

- nzxt s340

- 16gb ram

- 500W power supply

- Radeon HD 7580 1gb (waiting for gpu prices to go down so I am using the old graphics card of a friend until that happens but I probably will buy a 1060 6gb)

so now to my question, ryzen 5 1600/ ryzen 5 1600x with the 612 evo Coolermaster/ i5 8600k 612 evo Coolermaster

I will use it mostly for gaming and casual stuff (no content creation).

Thx for all replies:) 

I would go Ryzen 5 1600 with the aftermarket cooler and OC.

[NoxiousOdor]

I would go with the 8600k If you are mostly going to be gaming. Otherwise looks like a nice build. One thing you might want to look into is the s340 Elite is about the same price as the normal one but it looks much nicer

 

 

 

I change my mind, maybe ryzen would be better

[zwpkhm99]

1 minute ago, BluJay614 said:

I would go Ryzen 5 1600 with the aftermarket cooler and OC.

Why go with the non x when i should buy an aftermarket cooler anyways? the price difference is 20 Euros

 

[zwpkhm99]

3 minutes ago, asus killer said:

ryzen will need some fast DD4 RAM. Ryzen 1600 and overclock it

Basically same question to you as to blujay. If I want to overclock i need an aftermarket cooler, so why go with the non x version?

[BluJay614]

Just now, zwpkhm99 said:

Why go with the non x when i should buy an aftermarket cooler anyways? the price difference is 20 Euros

 

Because you can OC and get the same performance, and save that 20 Euros

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, zwpkhm99 said:

Why go with the non x when i should buy an aftermarket cooler anyways? the price difference is 20 Euros

The stock cooler is fine, I haven't had any temperature problems with mine(granted I haven't overclocked, but the stock cooler can get you almost to 4Ghz).

[Jessekiller101]

if you plan on using your pc only for gaming i would suggest a i5 8600k. Intel is king in single core performance wich is what games care about most.

[zwpkhm99]

3 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

I would go with the 8600k If you are mostly going to be gaming. Otherwise looks like a nice build. One thing you might want to look into is the s340 Elite is about the same price as the normal one but it looks much nicer

 

 

 

I change my mind, maybe ryzen would be better

Why is ryzen better? Is it because of the high thread count? In which case would you recommend buying the 8600k because I thought higher clock speeds are better for gaming while higher core count makes content creation easier 

[SolarNova]

If u can afford a 8600k, then go for it, theres no contest when it comes to gaming and single thread performance.

 

The only time i would recommend a ryzen 1600x vs a 8600k is if u needed the extra threads for multitasking.

[zwpkhm99]

1 minute ago, BluJay614 said:

Because you can OC and get the same performance, and save that 20 Euros

Is it really the same performance like literally? Cool I didn't know that.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, zwpkhm99 said:

Is it really the same performance like literally? Cool I didn't know that.

Overclocked 1600 = 1600X.

 

The 1600 is overall better value than the 1600X, it even comes with a pretty capable stock cooler(something AMD's older generations didn't).

[zwpkhm99]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

The stock cooler is fine, I haven't had any temperature problems with mine(granted I haven't overclocked, but the stock cooler can get you almost to 4Ghz).

Another question I have is, i recently talked with a friend of mine about CPU's and he said that in the future games are going to relly more on the core count and not on single core performane, which is why it is better to buy the ryzen 5 1600 rather than the 8600k (because of the 12 threads). Is that assumption true, is it really more future proof to buy the ryzen 5 1600?

[asus killer]

8600k and ryzen 1600 are not in the same league. cpu, mobo and cooler will be much more expensive

[BluJay614]

1 minute ago, zwpkhm99 said:

Is it really the same performance like literally? Cool I didn't know that.

Within margin of error, yes.

[Streetguru]

13 minutes ago, zwpkhm99 said:

 

You should 100% wait for Feburary 12th and get one of the new Ryzen APUs at that point, the intergrated GPU will actually be faster if I'm not mistaken.

And maybe get a case that's more airflow focused like the masterbox 5 black or Silverstone RL06 Pro

 

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

 

Even for pure gaming the i7 8700 would make more sense to buy than the 8600K, hyperthreading likely being more useful than like a 700mhz advantage for the i5.

[zwpkhm99]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Even for pure gaming the i7 8700 would make more sense to buy than the 8600K, hyperthreading likely being more useful than like a 700mhz advantage for the i5.

Are you saying that the integrated gpu is going to be faster than a 1060 6gb? 

Well the i7 8700k is of course the best option but it is too expensive for me

[zwpkhm99]

4 minutes ago, asus killer said:

8600k and ryzen 1600 are not in the same league. cpu, mobo and cooler will be much more expensive

Yeah this is why I am asking if it is worth the cost. It is always a matter of price to performance. It will probably cost me around 100 Euros more to buy the 8600k with mobo and cooler.

[SolarNova]

OP if ur interested in OC performance here is but 1 of many on youtube

 

 

[asus killer]

Just now, zwpkhm99 said:

Yeah this is why I am asking if it is worth the cost. It is always a matter of price to performance. It will probably cost me around 100 Euros more to buy the 8600k with mobo and cooler.

ryzen 1600 is a pretty capable CPU, of course there is always better performance. Better performance per dollar i don't think so.

Until a few months before coffee lake everybody was happy it the 1600, so...

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

6 minutes ago, zwpkhm99 said:

Another question I have is, i recently talked with a friend of mine about CPU's and he said that in the future games are going to relly more on the core count and not on single core performane, which is why it is better to buy the ryzen 5 1600 rather than the 8600k (because of the 12 threads). Is that assumption true, is it really more future proof to buy the ryzen 5 1600?

Basically, yes. Ryzen will be better to have when games start utilizing more threads(whenever the heck that is). Future proof is a relative term, technology is fluid, everchanging, etc etc.

4 minutes ago, zwpkhm99 said:

Are you saying that the integrated gpu is going to be faster than a 1060 6gb?

A dedicated GPU(such as the 1060) is almost always better than an integrated GPU. No iGPU is faster than a 1060 6Gb

[Zmax]

9 minutes ago, zwpkhm99 said:

Another question I have is, i recently talked with a friend of mine about CPU's and he said that in the future games are going to relly more on the core count and not on single core performane, which is why it is better to buy the ryzen 5 1600 rather than the 8600k (because of the 12 threads). Is that assumption true, is it really more future proof to buy the ryzen 5 1600?

I have read the same thing. 

[Evanair]

Or wait till April for Ryzen 2...