I7 8700K tempertures

[MissyPuff]

Hi all,

 

First i would like to thank everyone that helped me from my previous post about here and have decided to upgrade and all is good now 

But i am now facing a different problem with my sister's computer which we bought together recently, her specs as follows:

 

CPU: Intel I7 8700k

Motherboard: MSI Z370 Gaming M5

CPU cooler: Corsair H115i with Fractal Design venture HP-14PWM  (currently top mounted pull configuration)

Memory: G.Skill TridentZ 32GB (8Gb x 4) 3200Mhz 

Graphic Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G

SSD: Samsung 960 PRO NVMe M.2 1TB

Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB

Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster Zx

Power supply: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W

Fans: Fractal Design venture HP-14PWM (Front x 2, Side x 1) Fractal Design venture HP-12PWM (back)

Casing: Fractal Design Define R5 White

Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum

Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Blue

 

I need advice on two questions which we are facing: 

1. Everyday when she starts her computer it takes long then it should, about 20 seconds which mine took only less then 6 seconds

2. Whenever she plays some of her games like Guild Wars 2 her CPU temperatures will rise up alot like 92°C (in game settings max). did some reading and turn off MSI Enhance Turbo temperatures dropped to about 85°C

 

she only opens her game only with no background apps we have tried resitting the cooler and even brought it back to the shop which build it to resit it for us again and bought a arctic MX-4 thermal greaseto hope it will help but it did not.. please 

advice us. oh and all drive bays have been removed to get the most out of air flow too ^_^. but still getting high temperatures

 

Our Room temperature is about 23°C as we turn on our air conditioner most of the time if not currently is about 25~14°C

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

[WereCat]

Can you use something like a HWInfo to check the voltage when runing the game? It will report current, min, max, avg.

Let me know the max and avg voltage. (CPU VID / VCORE voltage)

Chances are, you are runing at something high like 1.35V-1.4V by default for some reason.

[Princess Luna]

the i7 8700k is hot this is nothing new, reason why I went with the locked variant for its lower TDP so it sits on mid 60's without breaking the bank on cooling and delidding...

[MissyPuff]

 

this is with MSI Enchance Turbo "Off"

[thenotoriousmma]

after delid 

@5,0Ghz

and 

@5,2Ghz 

tempertures

 

 

 

[x1o8x]

3 hours ago, MissyPuff said:

 

this is with MSI Enchance Turbo "Off"

Wow to think that even with a high end AIO the temps are that bad. have you checked if they are 92c across all cores at the same time though?

[MissyPuff]

2 hours ago, x1o8x said:

Wow to think that even with a high end AIO the temps are that bad. have you checked if they are 92c across all cores at the same time though?

yes all cores 

[xg32]

it's running at 1.4v on a 8700k that's not delidded, 90 is normal. if you don't overclock, try setting a manual voltage to 1.3 or even 1.2v

[MissyPuff]

i see. can i do a return as faulty ?

 

[Andrewf]

36 minutes ago, MissyPuff said:

i see. can i do a return as faulty ?

 

NO just reduce voltage in BIOS and your temps should drop. 1.4v is insanely high for even 4.7Ghz clock.

[Bhav]

Why are stock voltages running so high on these chips?

[Emberstone]

20 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

the i7 8700k is hot this is nothing new, reason why I went with the locked variant for its lower TDP so it sits on mid 60's without breaking the bank on cooling and delidding...

You can get away with a cheap cooler like I have (Hyper 212 Evo; originally used for my Ryzen setup), but MCE is literally as far as the chip will go on this kind of cooling

 

It already hits 82 C in Aida64 with all cores set to turbo at 4.7 GHz and a manual voltage setting of 1.25v. Spiiiiicy.

[MissyPuff]

Hi all,

 

i would like to apologize first for the late reply as i was trying to learn how to overclock and learn how to adjust the settings in bios

I would like to thank everyone especially xg32 and Andrewf for the great advice as the temperatures are now @ 55-56 for CPU test and 70-75 @FPU test

 

thank you all for reading and giving advices

[ThisIsBunny]

recently found the biggest heat issue on my 8700K....
can set 5GHZ at 1.285V with <100C with no delid on ekwb extreme 360 cooling... but that's only on 2133 MHz ram....
idle temps or youtube temp is ~40-45C... before that I had my temp hitting up to 95C on idle/youtube tab and notting else on 3800mhz ram....
sadly I wasted a ton of money on 4133 ram that I can currently use only on 2133 as to 2666 as suggested by intel live support constantly gives BSOD on windows load....
the worst CPU ever produced.....

[AngryBeaver]

3 minutes ago, ThisIsBunny said:

recently found the biggest heat issue on my 8700K....
can set 5GHZ at 1.285V with <100C with no delid on ekwb extreme 360 cooling... but that's only on 2133 MHz ram....
idle temps or youtube temp is ~40-45C... before that I had my temp hitting up to 95C on idle/youtube tab and notting else on 3800mhz ram....
sadly I wasted a ton of money on 4133 ram that I can currently use only on 2133 as to 2666 as suggested by intel live support constantly gives BSOD on windows load....
the worst CPU ever produced.....

The issue with ram speed is more related to your motherboard manufacturer than the cpu.

 

The temp in these is no surprise and if you want to push the 5ghz envelope on these you will need really good cooling and a delid to get the headroom you want for thermals.

 

The real world difference between 5k and 4.7 isn't something you will see out side of artificial tests and benchmarks.

[AngryBeaver]

On 1/18/2018 at 12:36 AM, Bhav said:

Why are stock voltages running so high on these chips?

Because this happens on most intel chips close to launch. They will be more in line in a month or two as bios updates start rolling out.

[Ebony Falcon]

Go bios and set 47 as the multiplier and 1.22vcore 

 

temps will drop to 70 degrees