Will Z370 motherboards support processors from previous Gen?

[sarfraz]

will kabylake/skylake processors work on Z370 motherboards now or not?

[bleedblue]

Nope, Intel never said they would support Kaby/Sky Lake on the platform.

[Jurrunio]

no. why would someone do this?

[ImNotThere]

mobo manufacturers have said they can but intel says no unfortunately

[sarfraz]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

no. why would someone do this?

Actually I heard some rumour a few days ago. 

[Stefan Payne]

7 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

Nope, Intel never said they would support Kaby/Sky Lake on the platform.

Wait, what?
SRYSLY?!

 

[JoostinOnline]

What would be the point? There's no point in buying a more expensive motherboard for a lesser CPU. 

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, sarfraz said:

Actually I heard some rumour a few days ago. 

nah, that's stupid. 8th gen CPUs are cheaper than their 6/7th gen equivalents in performance

 

9 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Wait, what?
SRYSLY?!

 

anything wrong with the statement?

[JoostinOnline]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

anything wrong with the statement?

He's being sarcastic. Stefan Payne hates Intel. 

[Ashleyyyy]

34 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

why would someone do this?

if this was possible, someone who is on a budget could sell their current 200 series board, buy a 300 series, and use their old cpu for a while until an 8th gen is within budget. 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

if someone is on a budget that person could sell their current 200 series board, buy a 300 series, and use their old cpu for a while until an 8th gen is within budget. 

If someone's on a tight budget then 8th gen isnt the way to go at all.

[Stefan Payne]

22 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

anything wrong with the statement?

No, just hard to believe as 6 and 7th generation still use the same socket but don't work on the same chipset with another name...

 

Why did they do that?! 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, just hard to believe as 6 and 7th generation still use the same socket but don't work on the same chipset with another name...

 

Why did they do that?! 

Because Intel is the asshole among the industry, Even Nvidia looks good beside them, at least they keep on introducing new tech, albeit asking for a ton of money.

[Ashleyyyy]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If someone's on a tight budget then 8th gen isnt the way to go at all.

with budget i meant a situation where someone has to save up to buy things, and selling old stuff where possible can be a great way to increase the budget a little. 

 

it's like wanting to buy a new ssd, but you don't have enough. so you sell your old one, use an old harddrive for a month while you save up and then buy a new one. 

[Ashleyyyy]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Because Intel is the asshole among the industry, Even Nvidia looks good beside them, at least they keep on introducing new tech, albeit asking for a ton of money.

only on the high end. the gtx 1050's are really well priced. 

[DarkSmith2]

4 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, just hard to believe as 6 and 7th generation still use the same socket but don't work on the same chipset with another name...

 

Why did they do that?! 

they changed the pin layout for z370, might be possible that because of this change 9th generation will be working on z370. And they dont want eventual long term damage caused to 6th and 7th gen cpu's by this

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

they changed the pin layout for z370, might be possible that because of this change 9th generation will be working on z370. And they dont want eventual long term damage caused to 6th and 7th gen cpu's by this

Well 9th gen is rumoured to use Z390 or another new chipset, just not Z370. Also in the past someone from Asus (or MSI? I forgot) said that Z170/Z270 mobo are fully capable of using 8th gen CPU, it's Intel that decides to ban it. Whether they did change the pin layout to give them an actual reason (no matter how bad it is) or they just used a BIOS lock is unknown though.

 

X299 also shows CPU of different pin layout can use the same mobo since Kaby Lake X and Skylake X use different power config.

[Bhav]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

If someone's on a tight budget then 8th gen isnt the way to go at all.

Tbh Id have to disagree. Around £150 for the mobo, and £250 for an I5 8600k is a pretty sweet deal. I'll also be making more money back from selling off my X99 old stuff than the Z370 upgrade cost, but only because I already have a dual channel ram kit to use.

 

Ram is the current destroyer of upgrade budgets.

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, Bhav said:

Tbh Id have to disagree. Around £150 for the mobo, and £250 for an I5 8600k is a pretty sweet deal. I'll also be making more money back from selling off my X99 old stuff than the Z370 upgrade cost, but only because I already have a dual channel ram kit to use.

 

Ram is the current destroyer of upgrade budgets.

Not a sweet deal when Ryzen 5 1600 costs much less, allowing more budget on something else. Besides, this isnt your post, not everyone has an X99 setup to sell

[Bhav]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Not a sweet deal when Ryzen 5 1600 costs much less, allowing more budget on something else. Besides, this isnt your post, not everyone has an X99 setup to sell

Then an I3 8100 / 8350k costs even less. Z370 is not an overly expensive platform.

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, Bhav said:

Then an I3 8100 / 8350k costs even less.

Then it loses the performance advantage. It's pointless to argue about which CPU is cheaper

 

14 minutes ago, Bhav said:

Z370 is not an overly expensive platform

But a short living one. Z370 isnt expensive, but it's not as cheap as B350.

[Stefan Payne]

25 minutes ago, Bhav said:

Then an I3 8100 / 8350k costs even less. Z370 is not an overly expensive platform.

Yes it is.

You can get a decent B350 for under 100 bucks and also some good X370 are way cheaper than the Z370 ones.

 

And there was a price dump for Ryzen a couple of days ago as well - wich pretty much killed the 1700 because the 1700x only costs 10€ more. 

[Bhav]

1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yes it is.

You can get a decent B350 for under 100 bucks and also some good X370 are way cheaper than the Z370 ones.

 

And there was a price dump for Ryzen a couple of days ago as well - wich pretty much killed the 1700 because the 1700x only costs 10€ more. 

This isnt 'expensive' for a motherboard:

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-z370p-d3-intel-z370-s-1151-ddr4-sata3-m2-2-way-crossfire-realtek-gbe-usb-31-gen1-a-atx

 

Also the 1700x (£299) is more expensive than the 8600k (£254) while the 8700k is only £60 more (£359).

 

Ryzen chipsets arent any more a budget platform than Z370, the costs are relatively similar. 

 

[logicalloonatic]

Food for thought, I bought an 8700k and z370 m.2, the whole 9 yards. yesterday i woke and my pc was dead. process of elimination 8700k has failed. while awaiting rma, i pulled out my old i5 skylake just to have a usable computer until rma fulfilled. Thats a big no go. all my data stored on my m.2, no way to access it. just a waiting game :'( 

[Princess Luna]

Boy I love reviving a 9 months old thread marked as solved to qq about rma.