CPU upgrade

[TheRedEyedTerror]

Hey im looking to upgrade my CPU from my i3-7100 (My PC: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8H6LWX). I would like this to be the last time i have to touch my CPU for awhile, looking to spend 200$ish. I would like to keep my motherboard (Which dose NOT support overclocking) so i was looking at the i5-8400, would this be a good choice or should I go with something else? Thanks for reading 

[Crunchy Dragon]

If you get a newer CPU, you'll need a new motherboard as well. At that price range, the most you could get is an i3-8100 and a Z370 board for it. I would recommend looking at the i7-7700

[Jurrunio]

You couldnt get 8th gen while keeping the motherboard because Intel (an arsehole) decides to cut compatibility because it's time to do so (2 generations passed) rather than they need to. i7 6700/7700 is your best bet, though K versions will also work (just without further overclocking). The used market often turns out better deals too.

[LienusLateTips]

i7 7700 is the highest you can go, i5 8400 uses LGA 1151-v2

 

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You couldnt get 8th gen while keeping the motherboard because Intel (an arsehole) decides to cut compatibility because it's time to do so (2 generations passed) rather than they need to. i7 6700/7700 is your best bet, though K versions will also work (just without further overclocking). The used market often turns out better deals too.

The chipset actually changed to include more power delivery for higher power requirement CPUs and faster RAM

[TheRedEyedTerror]

3 hours ago, JDE said:

i7 7700 is the highest you can go, i5 8400 uses LGA 1151-v2

Didnt even realize that thanks

 

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You couldnt get 8th gen while keeping the motherboard because Intel (an arsehole) decides to cut compatibility because it's time to do so (2 generations passed) rather than they need to. i7 6700/7700 is your best bet, though K versions will also work (just without further overclocking). The used market often turns out better deals too.

Ok thanks!

 

3 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If you get a newer CPU, you'll need a new motherboard as well. At that price range, the most you could get is an i3-8100 and a Z370 board for it. I would recommend looking at the i7-7700

So would it be worth it to get the i7-7700 or upgrade to a new generation? Or is that even possible for about 200ish$

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, TheRedEyedTerror said:

 

 

So would it be worth it to get the i7-7700 or upgrade to a new generation? Or is that even possible for about 200ish$

Spend the extra $100 and get a cheap z370 and an i5-8400. Really solid CPU. Alternatively, look into Ryzen 5.

[TheRedEyedTerror]

4 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Spend the extra $100 and get a cheap z370 and an i5-8400. Really solid CPU. Alternatively, look into Ryzen 5.

That wont bottleneck my 1050ti would it?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

6 minutes ago, TheRedEyedTerror said:

That wont bottleneck my 1050ti would it?

Not severely, but I'd reccomend looking into a used 1070 or 980 Ti. Where I live, used 980 Tis go for about $200.

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HOWEVER

 

Personally, I wouldn't recommend changing platforms without starting fresh. If you're willing to make a bigger investment, this system will set you up for 1440p gaming, entry-level video editing, and looking damn good.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pq6LWX

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pq6LWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pq6LWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($180.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW DT GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($449.89 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1278.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-31 21:36 EST-0500

[Jurrunio]

29 minutes ago, JDE said:

more power delivery for higher power requirement CPUs

that related to chipset rather than the power delivery on the mobo itself?

 

31 minutes ago, JDE said:

faster RAM

to 2666?

[TheRedEyedTerror]

11 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Not severely, but I'd reccomend looking into a used 1070 or 980 Ti. Where I live, used 980 Tis go for about $200.

__________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

HOWEVER

 

Personally, I wouldn't recommend changing platforms without starting fresh. If you're willing to make a bigger investment, this system will set you up for 1440p gaming, entry-level video editing, and looking damn good.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pq6LWX

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pq6LWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pq6LWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($180.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW DT GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($449.89 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1278.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-31 21:36 EST-0500

Yeah, I dont know that i have a large sum of money to spend straight up. I think ill stick with 1080p until the 1440p is normal in a few years

[Crunchy Dragon]

9 minutes ago, TheRedEyedTerror said:

until the 1440p is normal in a few years

Honestly I don't know why it isn't the standard right now

[TheRedEyedTerror]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Honestly I don't know why it isn't the standard right now

Yeah I dont know, I think there is a big gap in between people who want to spend a lot of money and enjoy building computers and the people to slap together something just to play games

[Princess Luna]

Save for an i7 7700

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

Save for an i7 7700

No. Save for an i5-8400 and a cheap Z370. THAT'S an upgrade path (to 8700 or 8700k, or 9700k when Canon Lake or whatever comes out) on LGA 1151-v2, not a last-gen socket (LGA 1151-v1). Besides, the 8400 is pretty much just as powerful as the 7700 according to UserBenchmark.com.

[LienusLateTips]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

that related to chipset rather than the power delivery on the mobo itself?

 

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

to 2666?

Yes and yes.

58 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

No. Save for an i5-8400 and a cheap Z370. THAT'S an upgrade path (to 8700 or 8700k, or 9700k when Canon Lake or whatever comes out) on LGA 1151-v2, not a last-gen socket (LGA 1151-v1). Besides, the 8400 is pretty much just as powerful as the 7700 according to UserBenchmark.com.

Or, just stay with this platform now, take the money and change platforms next time.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, JDE said:

Yes and yes.

Actually, some Chinese geeks cracked that. They are selling 8100s with H110/B250 mobo with modded BIOS already, while the only loss is that the PCIe slots run at 2.0 bandwidth. Even the 8400s are stable on a beefy Z170/270 mobo, it's just that many features, like M.2, USB 3, SATA ports, doesnt work at all. Eventually, they will come on sale as well (probably not outside China though due to law enforcement issues)

 

As for memory, why bother? RAM overclocking is already a common practice for those who care. For those who dont, they'll just get the cheap stuff which are usually 2133 or 2400.

1 hour ago, JDE said:

Or, just stay with this platform now, take the money and change platforms next time.

Or fall for cheap deals on 6/7th gen i7s.